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habram Fri Oct 14, 2011 03:09pm

Blocked Field Goal going out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage
 
If this happens on Team A's 4th down
where does Team B began the next play
is it from the previous spot or where the ball went out of bounds

mbyron Fri Oct 14, 2011 03:18pm

Might make a difference which ruleset.

For NFHS, it's the same as a punt: where the ball went out of bounds. Doesn't matter where that spot is relative to the LOS.

JugglingReferee Fri Oct 14, 2011 05:44pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by habram (Post 793667)
If this happens on Team A's 4th down
where does Team B began the next play
is it from the previous spot or where the ball went out of bounds

CANADIAN RULING:

The worse of the Point of Block or Out of Bounds spot.

BktBallRef Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 793685)
CANADIAN RULING:

The worse of the Point of Block or Out of Bounds spot.

Point of block? Wow! That's just weird. :)

Robert Goodman Sat Oct 15, 2011 01:22am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 793729)
Point of block? Wow! That's just weird. :)

It's a form of offside pass, though it may no longer be called that. The blocked kick is an exception to the general offside pass provision. Point of block is no weirder than point of forward fumble used in some cases by NCAA & NFL.

Anyway, in NFL the spot will be the "better" (for team R) of the 20 yard line and the out of bounds spot. In NCAA it's like Fed if the kick was blocked behind, in, or up to 3 yards beyond the neutral zone.

Suudy Sat Oct 15, 2011 09:21am

More interesting. What if it is 3rd down?

Robert Goodman Sat Oct 15, 2011 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by Suudy (Post 793803)
More interesting. What if it is 3rd down?

US or Canadian?

In all USAn codes, the blocked kick, no matter where it was in relationship to the neutral zone, is still a kick, and if it goes out of bounds or rolls dead, the ball belongs to team R.

In Canadian football, if it goes out of bounds behind K's line (or behind the spot of the kick if it's a blocked open field kick), it's treated under general loose ball rules. Downs continue (i.e. the down counts) and it belongs to the last team whose player touched it in bounds. So if it was 3rd down, the loss of down means it goes over to team R. If it was 2nd or 3rd down or following a change in possession or beyond the line to gain, it still becomes team R's ball if they were last to touch it, but it's K's ball if they were.

ump33 Sat Oct 15, 2011 07:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suudy (Post 793803)
More interesting. What if it is 3rd down?

R's (B) ball 1st & 10 wher the kick went out of bounds.

R Goodman ... Sorry for the "overlap post," I replied without reading all the posts.

RadioBlue Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:26pm

Great. Now we've got two posters giving us Canadian rulings. :D :D :D :D :D

JRutledge Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by RadioBlue (Post 794567)
Great. Now we've got two posters giving us Canadian rulings. :D :D :D :D :D

This just give me one more reason not to read those postings. ;)

Peace


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