Carry over penalty??

[jTheUmp]

Yes, if the penalty was accepted, we would have to have an untimed down. (3-3-4-b-5).

However, I'd be quite tempted to go with the "obvious choice" of declining the penalty and taking result of the play.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Yes, if the penalty was accepted, we would have to have an untimed down. (3-3-4-b-5).

However, I'd be quite tempted to go with the "obvious choice" of declining the penalty and taking result of the play.

Wouldn't that be the obvious NON choice? I think the offended party here is often going to want a shot at the return.

[jTheUmp]

Well, yeah.... I was banking on the coaches not knowing that rule so that I wouldn't have to deal with explaining the choice to the coaches, explaining the enforcement to the Team A coach who will undoubtedly think that we're "screwing his team over", giving the teams their 1-minute break following the score, setting up the free kick, administering the free kick, and then and only then switching sides of the field to start the next quarter.

I was trying to condense that all down into one semi-sarcastic smiley.

And Team B might not want to take the untimed down in some situations (wind advantage to making Team A kick off at the other end of the field, et al).

[HLin NC]

jUmp- From your rule cite I'm not sure I understand your reasoning for an untimed down-

Rule ❒3 Periods, Time Factors and
Substitutions


SECTION 3 ENDING A PERIOD — HALF
ART. 4 . . . A period shall not be extended by an untimed down if during the last timed down of the period, one of the following occurs:
b. There was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted for:

5. fouls for which enforcement, by rule, result in a safety.

If they accept the penalty, the period should not be extended since the result is a safety. If they decline the penalty, they have the same result.

Either way, there will be a free kick at the 20 in the next quarter.

[Ia-Ref]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

jUmp- From your rule cite I'm not sure I understand your reasoning for an untimed down-

Rule ❒3 Periods, Time Factors and
Substitutions


SECTION 3 ENDING A PERIOD — HALF
ART. 4 . . . A period shall not be extended by an untimed down if during the last timed down of the period, one of the following occurs:
b. There was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted for:

5. fouls for which enforcement, by rule, result in a safety.

If they accept the penalty, the period should not be extended since the result is a safety. If they decline the penalty, they have the same result.

Either way, there will be a free kick at the 20 in the next quarter.

Wow, the answer is in the Rules Book! What a resource!
Thanks HL.

[jTheUmp]

D'OH

That's what happens when I skim over the rule too quickly and miss a word....

I shall now go flog myself with my whistle lanyard.