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Old Fri Sep 30, 2011, 08:38pm
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Old HS Timing Rules

This may be a stupid question for some of you, but this is my first year doing HS football. I also work with a Pop Warner league, but they use the "old" timing rules, but I do not know what that exactly means in terms of when the clock starts and stops. Can any of you help me out with this?

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Old Fri Sep 30, 2011, 11:13pm
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The "old" timing rules were that if you had a change of possession not involving a kick, i.e. 4th down punt with recovery by R, the clock started on the ready for play, not the snap.
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The "old" timing rules were that if you had a change of possession not involving a kick, i.e. 4th down punt with recovery by R, the clock started on the ready for play, not the snap.
If the play ended inbounds.
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Old Sat Oct 01, 2011, 01:05am
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Our JV and middle school timing rules:

On a change of possession, the clock starts on the ready unless the previous play ended OOB or with an incomplete pass.
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Old Sat Oct 01, 2011, 05:12pm
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How old?
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Old Sat Oct 01, 2011, 08:57pm
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How old?
Probably mid-90's before they made that stupid rule change the prolongs games unnecessarily.
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Old Sat Oct 01, 2011, 09:37pm
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With this Pop Warner league, (except Tiny Mites), they run 4- 10 minute quarters and schedule games every 90 minutes. So the clock needs to run more than with the current rule set for Fed.
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Old Sat Oct 01, 2011, 09:38pm
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Probably mid-90's before they made that stupid rule change the prolongs games unnecessarily.
Lets put it this way, I wasn't even in HS in the mid-90s.
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Probably mid-90's before they made that stupid rule change the prolongs games unnecessarily.
I'd say '93 or '94, not later. I remember it by the crew that I was with at the time.
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I'd say '93 or '94, not later. I remember it by the crew that I was with at the time.
I'm guessing a couple of years after this, maybe 1996 or so.

Edited to add: I guessed well -- it appears to be 1996:

http://football.refs.org/rules/NFrules5.html

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Old Sun Oct 02, 2011, 11:35am
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Lets put it this way, I wasn't even in HS in the mid-90s.
That's irrelevant. What matters is what the person meant who told you they use "old" timing rules. And did he mean Fed's old timing rules, or Pop Warner's old timing rules?

30+ yrs. ago I know Pop Warner was using modifications over Fed regarding what were then Fed's timing rules.
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Old Sun Oct 02, 2011, 04:43pm
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That's irrelevant. What matters is what the person meant who told you they use "old" timing rules. And did he mean Fed's old timing rules, or Pop Warner's old timing rules?
By what I've been told, it is the old Fed timing rules.

I only bring up my age, because them saying the "old" timing rules doesn't tell me what those rules are when I have never officiated under those rules like the officials who told me it was the "old" rules, or like officials on this board. Hence why I came asking what those rules are.
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Old Sun Oct 02, 2011, 05:28pm
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By what I've been told, it is the old Fed timing rules.

I only bring up my age, because them saying the "old" timing rules doesn't tell me what those rules are when I have never officiated under those rules like the officials who told me it was the "old" rules, or like officials on this board. Hence why I came asking what those rules are.
After a change of possession, start the clock on the ready, unless the previous play was an incomplete pass or ended OOB. I have all ideas that's what they were talking about. Good luck!
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After a change of possession, start the clock on the ready, unless the previous play was an incomplete pass or ended OOB. I have all ideas that's what they were talking about. Good luck!
This PW league has thrown me in as a WH, so that is how I ran it this week. I WH'ed in college in FLAG football, but this is my first year working TACKLE football, so being behind the play is not new, its still trying to master the rules of tackle football, which I feel are getting better each week as I study more and have more game experiences. (On MS/JV nights I work as a linesman.)
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Lets put it this way, I wasn't even in HS in the mid-90s.
Me either, I had been out 22 years!
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