False Start of Illegal Shift

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by wisref2

Same with going into a three-point stance at the time the ball is snapped. Players don't normally go into a three point stance when the ball is snapped, so it is illegal motion.

Going to 3 points is a shift. If the ball is snapped less than a second later, it's an illegal shift foul, not illegal motion.

What players "normally do" is not part of the false start, shift, or motion rules.

[wisref2]

Originally Posted by mbyron

What players "normally do" is not part of the false start, shift, or motion rules.

Well, actually it is if you want to help someone understand the rule rather than just answering a rule question by quoting the rule (if he understood the rule, he wouldn't be asking the question in the first place!).

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by wisref2

Well, actually it is if you want to help someone understand the rule rather than just answering a rule question by quoting the rule (if he understood the rule, he wouldn't be asking the question in the first place!).

Disagree. We don't teach people to understand the rule by teaching them concepts that have nothing to do with those in the rule. "Normally do" and "simulating action at the snap" are unrelated.

We teach people to understand the rule by using video, on-field training, and discussion to show them they types of play that do and do not fall under the prohibition of the rule. That way they learn to recognize "simulating action at the snap" and other concepts in the rules.