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You are correct we are. I am talking about the Landry hit. This thread jumped ship and I rode that one. My bad, I haven't seen the USC that was called which the OP referenced. The Landry one has the link in the thread. His helmet hits the middle of the Dallas receivers chest at :23.
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I think what made it look worse at full speed was the receivers head jerking back. At full speed it would appear that it was helmet to helmet. Obviously after seeing the replay it looked like a good legal hit to me.
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Just for clarification sake, the play referred to in the OP was a personal foul rather than unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Try pausing the Landry hit on Laurent Robinson at :30 to :31. If you don't see him dropping his head and making contact with the top/forehead/crown, then we are watching different plays. This is bang-bang IHC, no option for slow-mo during the game but I default to safety when in doubt. The endzone angle gives a good view around :23 showing him dropping his head. The flag from me is to protect Landry in the future more than it is to protect Robinson, imho.
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So, you can say with such utter matter of factness that a foul didn't occur? That a competent jury of seven officials couldn't find reasonable doubt that a foul occurred. I am not an NFL official but as I stated earlier, this would have warranted a flag for me in college and high school. The college rule reads something like "when in doubt, it is a foul." I would say agree to disagree but I guess by your statement above that won't work for you. So, you are right. He didn't drop his head and hit a defenseless receiver with the crown/top/forehead of his helmet. Mercy, I give!
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Besides that, pausing it means nothing. There isn't a call a football official can make where he gets to pause the play.
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Once again we are probably looking at different plays. So, are you saying that the helmet contact is incidental? If so, then good call on your part because that is how the rule reads. I believe it was not incidental. Also, I agree and stated earlier that there is no slo-mo on the field and we have to go with our gut. My gut has a flag and your gut doesn't. It's all good, I can be civil when people disagree with me. Heck, coaches disagree often but I haven't let that get in the way of me getting to where I am now.
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but watching this game I could not believe this crew missed the hold on Demarcus Ware near the end of the game, it was on the blatantly obvious side..... a first year pop warner should not have missed that. Jon Gruden went ballistic and they showed the replay as Ware was on a path to destroy Grossman. Also another thing from this game that was interesting as Dallas came back and blamed all the early snaps their center kept making was due to a former Dallas player on Washingtons D line was calling out Romo's cadence. Interesting I guess it would be nearly impossible for the U to hear since he is behind the O line except for the last 5 minutes of the half? |
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Calling phantom 15-yarders? Not acceptable from any angle... you have to SEE this to call it. Hard to see it, from any angle, when it doesn't actually happen. Calling the player a defenseless receiver when announcing the foul irritated me even more, given that the receiver in question CAUGHT THE EFFING BALL. Take it a step further and make this bad call against my team at a critical moment...? Yeah, I was throwing pillows at the TV.
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