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RealityCheck Sun Sep 18, 2011 09:34pm

Disturbing college football trend...players faking injuries to slow down no-huddle
 
It is becoming a farce in college football watching players flop to slow down no-huddle offenses. Houston pulled the stunt three or four times in the game against Louisiana Tech this week.

The NCAA needs to institute the CFL injury rule...if a player has to be attended to on the field, that player must sit out for at least three plays. It is going to take a rule change like this to stamp out this disturbing trend in unethical coaching tactics.

JasonTX Sun Sep 18, 2011 09:55pm

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 788279)
It is becoming a farce in college football watching players flop to slow down no-huddle offenses. Houston pulled the stunt three or four times in the game against Louisiana Tech this week.

The NCAA needs to institute the CFL injury rule...if a player has to be attended to on the field, that player must sit out for at least three plays. It is going to take a rule change like this to stamp out this disturbing trend in unethical coaching tactics.

Faking injuries is listed in the front of the rule book under Coaching Ethics. If this is being allowed or coached then they have violated the spirt of competition. This is a sensistive area because who are we, as officials, to determine if he was faking. I think this is why the NCAA doesn't make it a foul because if we flag a player "faking" and then it turns out he truly was injured, we have pie all over our face. What the rules do allow is for us to reset the play clock to 40 seconds for a Team B injury, but that only helps the offense who is trying to run out the clock.

This stuff came up last year and the NCAA made several statements last year about how this is poor sportsmanship.

jTheUmp Mon Sep 19, 2011 08:16am

+1 JasonTX

I don't think I've ever seen it happen at the HS level, but then again I don't really KNOW if a player is truly injured. Nor, as an official, do I want to be put in a position where I have to guess if the injury is real or not.

grunewar Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:38am

Came up at the end of last season too as it was rampant on the west coast........

JRutledge Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:55am

BTW, I know you are not talking to me personally.
 
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Originally Posted by JasonTX (Post 788282)
What the rules do allow is for us to reset the play clock to 40 seconds for a Team B injury, but that only helps the offense who is trying to run out the clock.

This stuff came up last year and the NCAA made several statements last year about how this is poor sportsmanship.

You can take off a lot of time if this is done multiple times. I honestly do not see the benefit of teams doing this, especially in the closing minutes or when time is a big factor.

Peace

umpirebob71 Tue Sep 20, 2011 09:49am

This very thing happened last night in MNF, and if I'm Tom Coughlin, I would be ashamed and embarrassed. That was absolutely the most pathetic thing I've ever seen an NFL team pull.

InsideTheStripe Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:07am

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Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 788525)
This very thing happened last night in MNF, and I'm Tom Coughlin, I would be ashamed and embarrassed. That was absolutely the most pathetic thing I've ever seen an NFL team pull.

Complete garbage.

MD Longhorn Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:09am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 788367)
You can take off a lot of time if this is done multiple times. I honestly do not see the benefit of teams doing this, especially in the closing minutes or when time is a big factor.

Peace

That (wasting time) was not the OP's issue. He was talking about faking injury to slow down no-huddle offenses. I saw the Houston - Louisville game he referred to, and it was rather obvious to me as well (at least on TV --- possibly not so obvious on the field ... and I agree with the above who state that he, as an official, would not want to be put into a situation of guessing which injuries were real and which were just to give the defense time to breathe and/or substitute)

MD Longhorn Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:11am

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Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe (Post 788534)

Good grief.

CT1 Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:47am

Goodell should issue large fines & "nip it in the bud".

mbyron Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 788541)
Goodell should issue large fines & "nip it in the bud".

That's fine for the league, which has investigators and enforcement powers for post-game inquiries. Hard to see how this would work for HS games. :(

JRutledge Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 788535)
That (wasting time) was not the OP's issue. He was talking about faking injury to slow down no-huddle offenses. I saw the Houston - Louisville game he referred to, and it was rather obvious to me as well (at least on TV --- possibly not so obvious on the field ... and I agree with the above who state that he, as an official, would not want to be put into a situation of guessing which injuries were real and which were just to give the defense time to breathe and/or substitute)

My simple point is there are some remedies already in place, not saying they completely works or that is stops all the time, but there is a risk of doing this. I would have no problem if the rules changed to take a player out for series or more than one play. I just do not want to get to a point where we try to figure out as officials if someone is really hurt and start making judgments based on if we think that someone is really hurt.

Peace

grunewar Tue Sep 20, 2011 01:46pm

This story may have some legs......
 
Did the Giants fake injuries to slow down St. Louis?

From the article:

"It's no place for the referee to judge if a player is truly hurt, and the NFL would only fine individuals and teams for such behavior if they admitted it, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells Pro Football Talk."

Most importantly, you can take a survey! ;)

mbyron Tue Sep 20, 2011 02:37pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 788566)

From the article:

"It's no place for the referee to judge if a player is truly hurt, and the NFL would only fine individuals and teams for such behavior if they admitted it, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells Pro Football Talk."

We'll see how long this policy lasts when the consequence-free faking starts to impact the game. :rolleyes:

bob jenkins Tue Sep 20, 2011 02:51pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 788572)
We'll see how long this policy lasts when the consequence-free faking starts to impact the betting resultsor fantasy leagues. :rolleyes:

fixed it for you


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