under inflated football

[pat32562]

The ball was so deflated the kicker would squeeze the ball on the field in front
of the ref, & you could see the kicker's thumb buried in the ball from the sidelines. You do not need a guage to see that it was definitely under inflated, my question is how can you get another certified ball for this case
(not a special or kicking ball) if the ref refuses to do the right thing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by pat32562

The ball was so deflated the kicker would squeeze the ball on the field in front
of the ref, & you could see the kicker's thumb buried in the ball from the sidelines. You do not need a guage to see that it was definitely under inflated, my question is how can you get another certified ball for this case
(not a special or kicking ball) if the ref refuses to do the right thing.

You can't (not sure how many ways people can say this to you). If the officials felt the ball was legal before, they are not going to change it unless they feel the ball is under inflated. You could complain, but if they refuse then they refuse. That is what they are there to do, make decisions even when you do not like them. It is that simple, the official's decision is final.

Peace

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by pat32562

The ball was so deflated the kicker would squeeze the ball on the field in front
of the ref, & you could see the kicker's thumb buried in the ball from the sidelines. You do not need a guage to see that it was definitely under inflated, my question is how can you get another certified ball for this case
(not a special or kicking ball) if the ref refuses to do the right thing.

It's quite obvious that teams these days have plenty of balls, so that shouldn't have been an issue. I would take the next step when evaluating the crew or passing that info along to your CC or state association.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess this crew doesn't have alot of playoff experience, but JRut is right. Unless it's obvious...they won't change it. Did you see if they checked them prior to the game...?

[pat32562]

Thanks, I understand it is a ref's call,we won the game, I just felt bad
for the kicker, the ball hit the crossbar from 42 yards.

[HLin NC]

Was it your kicker or the opponent?

If its your ball and your team, I can see how the officials might not have allowed you to introduce a new ball. The balls should have been presented and checked prior to the game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by pat32562

Thanks, I understand it is a ref's call,we won the game, I just felt bad
for the kicker, the ball hit the crossbar from 42 yards.

This is what I do not understand. Usually a team tries to bring out an under inflated or altered ball. That is why the NFL went to the "K" ball because teams would doctor the balls and under inflate them to get an advantage. Also those balls are easier to hold on to and grasp when running the football.

Peace

[radwaste50]

My experience has been many of the balls presented are under inflated I keep a pump and glycerin in my bag and if they cant inflate the ball I will. Also like giving them the option that the other teams ball is proper we can just use that one. then we dont need the ball boy

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by radwaste50

My experience has been many of the balls presented are under inflated I keep a pump and glycerin in my bag and if they cant inflate the ball I will. Also like giving them the option that the other teams ball is proper we can just use that one. then we dont need the ball boy

Oh yeah?!?!

I bring 4 inch yellow pipe and welding equipment in case the uprights are not at extended at least 10' above the crossbar.

[Reffing Rev.]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

Oh yeah?!?!

I bring 4 inch yellow pipe and welding equipment in case the uprights are not at extended at least 10' above the crossbar.

I completely forgot about this...2 weeks ago I got a call to work a postponed game on Saturday morning after lightning had come the night before...it was a 6-man (players-not officials) game at a tiny school. Inspecting the field I went to check the padding on one of the uprights and I moved it (the upright) about 6 inches. The rain and wind had erroded around the base of the thing and it was a 4 inch pipe in a 12 inch hole. After about 6 bags of fill sand, the upright was mostly stable. Good thing too, because those 6 man games you get 2 points for kicking extra points.

[RadioBlue]

I SWEAR! The KY Jelly in my bag is for my needle!!

[JRutledge]

TMI, TMI and more TMI!!!



Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is what I do not understand. Usually a team tries to bring out an under inflated or altered ball. That is why the NFL went to the "K" ball because teams would doctor the balls and under inflate them to get an advantage.

No, they'd sneak in an overinflated ball for kicking.

As to how a ball could become suddenly underinflated, not hard to imagine. Somebody scuffs a cleat, raising a burr, and that burr then scratches the ball and punctures it.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

No, they'd sneak in an overinflated ball for kicking.

As to how a ball could become suddenly underinflated, not hard to imagine. Somebody scuffs a cleat, raising a burr, and that burr then scratches the ball and punctures it.

I've had very new balls in good shape go down in a game....almost always regarding the inflating valve.