Washington officials finally disciplined for charity pink whistles

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

WOA loses in the court of public perception. Even if they are technically right, they are also completely wrong at the same time.

This is the quote from Stordahl I do not understand.

“It sends the wrong message to kids that are playing the game,” he said then. “’If they broke the rules, why can’t I do the same.’”

What rules does the average public even know what we follow or do not follow? And I think they would get over it the minute they found out you were doing it to raise money and everyone on the field is representing the very same message. I guess common sense does not rule the day.

Peace

[asdf]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is the quote from Stordahl I do not understand.


What rules does the average public even know what we follow or do not follow? And I think they would get over it the minute they found out you were doing it to raise money and everyone on the field is representing the very same message. I guess common sense does not rule the day.

Peace

One of those dastardly "Seattle area newscast people" must have mis-quoted him.

[parepat]

It seems to me that if there is a rogue association who disregards the state, then you punish them. What you do not do is punish them for wearing breast cancer whistles. What you do not do is then change your tune when the whole world is watching. And you definitely don't then flip flop again six months later when you think the whole world is no longer watching. If this pink whistle loving bunch of revolutionaries are as out of control as you say, then they will most certainly fall off the reservation again; and, when they do you can feel free to smash them into little pieces.

What you don't do is make a fool of yourself and your organization by punishing refs for wearing stinkin breast cancer whistles!

[APG]

Originally Posted by parepat

It seems to me that if there is a rogue association who disregards the state, then you punish them. What you do not do is punish them for wearing breast cancer whistles. What you do not do is then change your tune when the whole world is watching. And you definitely don't then flip flop again six months later when you think the whole world is no longer watching. If this pink whistle loving bunch of revolutionaries are as out of control as you say, then they will most certainly fall off the reservation again; and, when they do you can feel free to smash them into little pieces.

What you don't do is make a fool of yourself and your organization by punishing refs for wearing stinkin breast cancer whistles!

I think this sums up the situation perfectly...

[MD Longhorn]

Maybe WOA was wrong in telling PC not to use the pink whistles over bureaucratic nonsense... So shame on them.

Maybe WOA should have told them that in THIS case, because the cause was noble, they would allow it despite their lack of following protocol. So again, shame on them.

But they didn't. They told PC not to do it - IN ADVANCE of them doing it. How could they NOT penalize them when they blatantly did it anyway? If they don't penalize such blatant disregard for authority, future "Don't do that's" have no teeth.

Imagine your a baseball umpire and you (right or wrong) tell a coach, "One more word and you're gone." He then turns to you and says "Breast cancer." If you don't toss him, you're warnings have no further purpose and you have no credibility.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Maybe WOA was wrong in telling PC not to use the pink whistles over bureaucratic nonsense... So shame on them.

Maybe WOA should have told them that in THIS case, because the cause was noble, they would allow it despite their lack of following protocol. So again, shame on them.

But they didn't. They told PC not to do it - IN ADVANCE of them doing it. How could they NOT penalize them when they blatantly did it anyway? If they don't penalize such blatant disregard for authority, future "Don't do that's" have no teeth.

Imagine your a baseball umpire and you (right or wrong) tell a coach, "One more word and you're gone." He then turns to you and says "Breast cancer." If you don't toss him, you're warnings have no further purpose and you have no credibility.

So you're saying you always have to double down on stupidity?

I can't say you're wrong about this; in fact you're probably right that having already taken the stupid action of denying the request in the first place, the WOA was committed to having to punish PNFOA in some way. However, the level of punishment given here is way out of line with the act committed and it doesn't give WOA immunity for being called out on the stupidity and general jerkiness of having forbidden it in the first place.

Yes, when the authorities are jerks you sometimes get punished for doing the right thing. That doesn't change the fact that the authorities are jerks or mean you shouldn't do the right thing.

Oh, and the WOA lost its credibility when they denied the use of the pink whistles, so this is really closing the barn door after the horse has left.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

So you're saying you always have to double down on stupidity?

I can't say you're wrong about this; in fact you're probably right that having already taken the stupid action of denying the request in the first place, the WOA was committed to having to punish PNFOA in some way. However, the level of punishment given here is way out of line with the act committed and it doesn't give WOA immunity for being called out on the stupidity and general jerkiness of having forbidden it in the first place.

Yes, when the authorities are jerks you sometimes get punished for doing the right thing. That doesn't change the fact that the authorities are jerks or mean you shouldn't do the right thing.

Oh, and the WOA lost its credibility when they denied the use of the pink whistles, so this is really closing the barn door after the horse has left.

I dunno about you, but I took his post kind of tongue in cheek...on a side note, that's why we should never tell coach anything close to "One more word and..."

Ref: "Coach, one more word and you get a T!"
Coach: "Yes sir"
Ref: *Whack?!*

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

So you're saying you always have to double down on stupidity?

Don't you mean "double up"? If they were doubling down they'd at least be promising not to pile on any further stupidity beyond that.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Maybe WOA was wrong in telling PC not to use the pink whistles over bureaucratic nonsense... So shame on them.

Maybe WOA should have told them that in THIS case, because the cause was noble, they would allow it despite their lack of following protocol. So again, shame on them.

But they didn't. They told PC not to do it - IN ADVANCE of them doing it. How could they NOT penalize them when they blatantly did it anyway? If they don't penalize such blatant disregard for authority, future "Don't do that's" have no teeth.

Imagine your a baseball umpire and you (right or wrong) tell a coach, "One more word and you're gone." He then turns to you and says "Breast cancer." If you don't toss him, you're warnings have no further purpose and you have no credibility.

Then why in the world didn't Napoleon tell the world that they applied, were told no and did it anyway?

Instead he said they didn't ask it was a dress code violation.

He's flipped stories on this so many times, it's comical.

Maybe he should check with the WOA "staff" before he shoots all his toes off on camera.