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mjjacobs Tue Mar 08, 2011 04:13pm

1961 NFL Title game- touchback rules
 
I was watching the 1961 title game between the Packers and Giants on You Tube and saw an interesting play before 1/2 time. The Giants, on 4th down on about the Packer's 7 had an incomplete pass in the end zone to Kyle Rote.

The officials set the ball at the 20 where the Packers took over. Does anyone know how the rules might have changed for touchbacks in the NFL?

JugglingReferee Tue Mar 08, 2011 04:40pm

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Originally Posted by mjjacobs (Post 737829)
I was watching the 1961 title game between the Packers and Giants on You Tube and saw an interesting play before 1/2 time. The Giants, on 4th down on about the Packer's 7 had an incomplete pass in the end zone to Kyle Rote.

The officials set the ball at the 20 where the Packers took over. Does anyone know how the rules might have changed for touchbacks in the NFL?

Assuming that the officials aren't going to botch something like that in the title game, I imagine that a turnover on downs is at least a touchback.

Robert Goodman Tue Mar 08, 2011 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by mjjacobs (Post 737829)
I was watching the 1961 title game between the Packers and Giants on You Tube and saw an interesting play before 1/2 time. The Giants, on 4th down on about the Packer's 7 had an incomplete pass in the end zone to Kyle Rote.

The officials set the ball at the 20 where the Packers took over. Does anyone know how the rules might have changed for touchbacks in the NFL?

You mean when it changed to that, or changed from that?

As to when it changed from that, it was no later than 1974, might've been 1972. No earlier than 1970.

As to when it changed to that, I'm trying to remember if they inherited that from NCAA. I think they might've, and then NCAA changed it much earlier than NFL.

Another bit of "fun" was that until some time in the 1960s in the NFL, a forward pass from behind the passing team's goal line produced a dead ball and safety if it touched the goal structure.

Raymond Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by mjjacobs (Post 737829)
I was watching the 1961 title game between the Packers and Giants on You Tube and saw an interesting play before 1/2 time. The Giants, on 4th down on about the Packer's 7 had an incomplete pass in the end zone to Kyle Rote.

The officials set the ball at the 20 where the Packers took over. Does anyone know how the rules might have changed for touchbacks in the NFL?

The rule changed some time in the very early 70's. The rule at the time of the '61 title game was that any 4th down pass thrown incomplete in or through the opponents end zone resulted in a touchback and the ball placed at the 20 for change of possession.


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