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Reffing Rev. Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:31pm

Runner touches ball to ground
 
Thursday night varsity game

QB scrambles and as he breaks a tackle he puts his hand down with the ball and touches the ground, and continues running for another 12 yards.

Coach screams, "He's down, ball touched the ground"

He goes so far as to request a coach-referee conference.

I said, "The ball is dead when a player in posession allows any part of his person to touch the ground other than hand or foot, and the ball is not a part of his person."

He disagreed, I found out today he called the state to complain about that play.

I've scoured my books and can't find his rule, and I couldn't find a case-book play to support our ruling.

Anyone know where he came up with that myth/rule?

kdf5 Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:46pm

You should have stopped at myth.

Texas Aggie Fri Oct 15, 2010 01:07pm

Ask him: "Coach, if he fumbled and picked the ball up, are you saying he's down? What's the difference?"

ump33 Sat Oct 16, 2010 08:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev. (Post 696551)
Thursday night varsity game

QB scrambles and as he breaks a tackle he puts his hand down with the ball and touches the ground, and continues running for another 12 yards.

Coach screams, "He's down, ball touched the ground"

He goes so far as to request a coach-referee conference.

I said, "The ball is dead when a player in posession allows any part of his person to touch the ground other than hand or foot, and the ball is not a part of his person."

He disagreed, I found out today he called the state to complain about that play.

I've scoured my books and can't find his rule, and I couldn't find a case-book play to support our ruling.

Anyone know where he came up with that myth/rule?

4-2-2 . . . The ball becomes dead and the down is ended:
a. When a runner goes out of bounds, is held so his forward progress is stopped or allows any part of his person other than hand or foot to touch the ground.

tjones1 Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:16am

Was he charged with a time-out?

jemiller Sun Oct 17, 2010 03:46pm

The ball touching the ground does not constitute any part of his person. IMHO. At a minimum it would be part of his hand in which case he is not down.

Rich Sun Oct 17, 2010 04:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev. (Post 696551)
He disagreed, I found out today he called the state to complain about that play.

They'll let any idiot use a phone these days. :D

GoodwillRef Mon Oct 18, 2010 05:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 696746)
They'll let any idiot use a phone these days. :D

And they let these people rate US? :)


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