Taping up weight end of flag

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by stegenref

And why don't the manufacturers just make that ball part white?

They do.




Honig's Whistle Stop - F71W - WHITE BALL NYLON PENALTY FLAG

[ODJ]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

They do.




Honig's Whistle Stop - F71W - WHITE BALL NYLON PENALTY FLAG

And it's not heavy enough.

Tape it up. Sandwich wrap the ball. Tape it on. Stays clean.

[JRutledge]

Someone needs to explain to me what is the reason they make these flags with with and black tops. Because they did not make the black flags until they started selling the black pants. And if they are not heavy enough what is the reason these flags are made?

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Someone needs to explain to me what is the reason they make these flags with with and black tops. Because they did not make the black flags until they started selling the black pants. And if they are not heavy enough what is the reason these flags are made?

Peace

Because a lot of officials buy into the (stupid, IMO) mindset that flags should be hidden away until they magically appear on the field.

To the poster a few posts above: It's not great to reach for the flag and pass on it -- it shows indecision and will make both sidelines unhappy. Same for the basketball official that starts raising his hand to call a foul and then thinks better of it and brings his hand down. I can talk my way out of such a situation, but it's better to have a bit slower timing and not reach in the first place.

And the poster above is right -- everyone will do it in their careers and I don't see how that changes if the flag is black or yellow -- you still see the hand reaching for the belt.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Because a lot of officials buy into the (stupid, IMO) mindset that flags should be hidden away until they magically appear on the field.

Then why to officials put their flags in their front or side belt? That is the same reasoning too isn't it?

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And the poster above is right -- everyone will do it in their careers and I don't see how that changes if the flag is black or yellow -- you still see the hand reaching for the belt.

I do not think anyone said it was a game changer or something that is a career issue. But we do a lot of things as officials that are about procedure more than it is practicality. Heck why do we shine our shoe or why to officials cover any sign of other colors on their shoes but the black parts?

Peace

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Then why to officials put their flags in their front or side belt? That is the same reasoning too isn't it?



I do not think anyone said it was a game changer or something that is a career issue. But we do a lot of things as officials that are about procedure more than it is practicality. Heck why do we shine our shoe or why to officials cover any sign of other colors on their shoes but the black parts?

Peace

I've worn mine in front...toward my right side in front of my hip as long as I can remember. As an Ump most Fridays and Ref all other times, it's easy to grab and go...and it goes nowhere..as in doesn't fall out. Nothing to do with hiding it. I think it looks better. I know guys who've taken some jabs for hiding their flags so well it was to the point the coaching staffs wonder that you may not be throwing it because you don't have it. For me, it's easy to find without thinking about it and it's become second nature. We've all seen guys in other crews or guys we've worked with that pull the back pocket hanky and then have the rabbit ear on their rear for awhile or have a heck of a time getting it out of there, which looks amusing to most. My bean bag goes thru my belt on my left in front of the hip. I use the longer, thin blue NFL-type model.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if they are not heavy enough what is the reason these flags are made?

Peace

I don't know why but Honig's regular ball flags (not long toss) are all too light. I bought a plain yellow one this season in hopes that it would be heavier and it wasn't. Any bit of wind will catch the flag and carry it around.

I took Rich's suggestion and taped it up with black electrical tape and now the weight is just right.

Rich, any suggestions for applying the tape? It was nice and taught at first but has started to loosen up some.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I don't know why but Honig's regular ball flags (not long toss) are all too light. I bought a plain yellow one this season in hopes that it would be heavier and it wasn't. Any bit of wind will catch the flag and carry it around.

I took Rich's suggestion and taped it up with black electrical tape and now the weight is just right.

Rich, any suggestions for applying the tape? It was nice and taught at first but has started to loosen up some.

Layers. And once it starts coming off, reapply it from scratch. I think I tried using long pieces of tape and just went around the ball end as many times as I could before cutting the tape.

I must've gotten lucky, because I applied the last layer around Week 8 of the season last year and I've used that flag for about 10 games this season so far and it's still in great shape.

I agree with Honig's flags -- even their long toss flag is inadequate, IMO. And I'm mainly a white hat, who rarely has to launch one.

[Welpe]

Thanks, I'll keep tinkering with it until I get it right. I do like the weight of it though.

For those of you scoring at home, it also blends in well with the black shorts but that's not why I did it.

The long toss works well for me though it took some getting used to as I was constantly over throwing the spot of the foul when I first started using it.

[Dukat]

I actually like the black tip flags with knickers as well. With the black belt it blends well and also does not look as dirty after being thrown like the white tip flags did.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It was nice and taught at first but has started to loosen up some.

Whoops.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Whoops.

This seems to work well...

That is not what I wrote.

[3 paragraphs later]

Whoops.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I don't know why but Honig's regular ball flags (not long toss) are all too light. I bought a plain yellow one this season in hopes that it would be heavier and it wasn't. Any bit of wind will catch the flag and carry it around.

I took Rich's suggestion and taped it up with black electrical tape and now the weight is just right.

Rich, any suggestions for applying the tape? It was nice and taught at first but has started to loosen up some.

Why not find some yellow tape to cover the flag if what color the flag is does not matter?

Peace

[Welpe]

Well I didn't have yellow electrical tape in my garage. I did have black. I'm cheap.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Well I didn't have yellow electrical tape in my garage. I did have black. I'm cheap.

I get it, but I am just saying. BTW, do they make yellow electric tape?

Peace