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wyo-referee Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:28pm
Overtime carry over
 
A makes FG and roughing the kicker is called. When they accept penalty, to be carried over to B's possesion, is it 1st and 10 from the 25 or 1st and goal from the 25?

mbyron Tue Sep 07, 2010 06:21am
1st and 10.

The only time A ever has 1st and [more than 10] occurs when A fouls after the chains have been set and the ball is ready for play.

RadioBlue Tue Sep 07, 2010 08:19am
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 691357)
1st and 10.

The only time A ever has 1st and [more than 10] occurs when A fouls after the chains have been set and the ball is ready for play.
MB: The title of this thread is "Overtime Carry Over". This is an instance where a team would start with 1st and more than 10. It's always 1st and goal in overtime.

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5-1-1: To start the overtime, the offensive team shall put the ball in play, first and goal, on the defensive team’s 10-yard line or succeeding spot if carry-over penalty has been administered (15-yard line for six-player football) anywhere between the hash marks. The first offensive team shall have a series of four downs. That series shall be terminated by any score by the offensive team or if the defensive team has possession of the ball.

JugglingReferee Tue Sep 07, 2010 08:54am
Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyo-referee (Post 691345)
A makes FG and roughing the kicker is called. When they accept penalty, to be carried over to B's possesion, is it 1st and 10 from the 25 or 1st and goal from the 25?
CANADIAN RULING:

A can opt to:

- give back their 3 points, move the ball up 15 yards, and scrimmage with an AFD, or
- keep the 3 points, and upon's B's choice, move the KO up 15 yards (to the B-50), or B's 1D back 15 yards (to the B-20), or
- if the score was on the last play of the game, the 15 yards in A's favour does carry to the first OT period

Reffing Rev. Tue Sep 07, 2010 08:58am
Unless you're in misery
 
I'm not sure if it is still the case, but in Missouri they used to use the NCAA overtime procedure, which meant you could get first downs in OT, but in the NFHS recommended overtime procedure the line-to-gain is always the goal line, so a fight that breaks out at the end of regulation with a host of players from one side getting penalized and only a few from the other, could leave team A in overtime series with a first and goal from their own 20.

mbyron Tue Sep 07, 2010 08:59am
Quote:
Originally Posted by RadioBlue (Post 691364)
MB: The title of this thread is "Overtime Carry Over". This is an instance where a team would start with 1st and more than 10. It's always 1st and goal in overtime.
Ah. Yep, missed the overtime part. :o

asdf Tue Sep 07, 2010 09:53am
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 691370)
Ah. Yep, missed the overtime part. :o
Overtime starts at the 20 yard line in Ohio.

It would be 1st and 10 for B at the 35 yard line.


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