Scrimmage kick play

[jemiller]

If the returner takes it into the EZ, when the ball has come to rest, he has put it in there and the kick has ended. Thus I do not believe that momentum would have an effect. It is a safety...In my opinion, Jim

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jemiller

If the returner takes it into the EZ, when the ball has come to rest, he has put it in there and the kick has ended. Thus I do not believe that momentum would have an effect. It is a safety...In my opinion, Jim

Perhaps you're not familiar with how the "momentum exception" works. Here's the rule (edited to omit irrelevant possibilities):

8-5-2.a
EXCEPTION: When ... an R player catches or
recovers a scrimmage kick ... between his 5-yard line and the goal line, and
his original momentum carries him into the end zone where the ball is declared dead
in his team’s possession ... the ball belongs to the team in possession at the spot
where ... the kick was caught or recovered.

The OP specified that the R22's momentum carried him from the R3 into the EZ, and the ball was subsequently declared dead. Thus the play meets all of the criteria specified in the exception, so it's R's ball where R22 recovered the kick (the R3).

Notice that whether the ball is at rest is irrelevant to assessing the momentum exception.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jemiller

If the returner takes it into the EZ...he has put it in there and the kick has ended.

Once the loose ball has been possessed, the player carrying the ball into the endzone is the force that has put the ball there. It doesn't matter what the ball was doing before that. Under normal circumstances this would be a safety because the B player carried the ball into the endzone and was downed. It is not a safety due to the momentum exception.

[hutsunuwu84]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Once the loose ball has been possessed, the player carrying the ball into the endzone is the force that has put the ball there. It doesn't matter what the ball was doing before that. Under normal circumstances this would be a safety because the B player carried the ball into the endzone and was downed. It is not a safety due to the momentum exception.

Its B's ball 1/10 from B's 3 yard line.

As for your assumption that it would have normally been a safety, I am confused on how you would reach that assumption. Explain please.

[AUgrad2006]

Originally Posted by hutsunuwu84

Its B's ball 1/10 from B's 3 yard line.

As for your assumption that it would have normally been a safety, I am confused on how you would reach that assumption. Explain please.

I think he just meant that if the momentum exception did not apply, it would be a safety because the runner carried the ball from the field of play into his own end zone. However the momentum exception does apply so that's the appropriate ruling in this situation.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by AUgrad2006

I think he just meant that if the momentum exception did not apply, it would be a safety because the runner carried the ball from the field of play into his own end zone. However the momentum exception does apply so that's the appropriate ruling in this situation.

Precisely. Without the momentum exception, the result of this play is a safety.

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Originally Posted by jemiller

If the returner takes it into the EZ, when the ball has come to rest, he has put it in there and the kick has ended.

Kicks end in only two ways: player possession or dead ball. If the returner is picking up a live ball, then it's still a kick, and momentum will apply.