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JimNayzium Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:36pm

I know a linemen must turn his back or be five yards deep to receive handoff, but can a tight end receive a forward handoff one yard deep without first turning his back...my gut says he is fine, but wanted to check with ya'll....

dkluvdaddy Mon Sep 23, 2002 06:51am

I guess I should really look this up before I respond, but my gut feeling is if a player is on the LOS at the snap even though he is an eligable reciever he would still have to recieve the ball five yards behind the LOS on a hand off, but could recieve a shuffle pass at the line. So the tight end would have to recieve the ball back five yrds on a hand to hand.

BktBallRef Mon Sep 23, 2002 09:13am

No, the TE is not a lineman, if he's on the end of the line. Therefore, he doesn't need to meet the requirements placed on a lineman. Whether he's receiving a handoff or a pass, he's legal if he's an eligible receiver.

Theisey Mon Sep 23, 2002 09:16am

The forward handing restriction only applies to Interior Linemen.

You can hand the ball forward (when behind the NZ) to any back or to a team member who was on the end of the line as long as he was not the snapper or the player next to the snapper.
Yes, the snapper could be the player on the end of the line as could a player one over from the snapper. Highly unusual formations, but it could be used by a coach. It does not matter what number the player is.

couple of formation examples:
E1 T1 G1 C G2 T2 E2
In this formation, only the E1 and E2 could receive a forward handoff anywhere behind the line.

E2 E1 T1 G1 C G2 T2
In this formation, only E2 and T2 could receive a handoff anywhere behind the line.

E1 T2 T1 G1 G2 C E2
In this one, only E1 could receive the handoff anywhere behind the line. E2 is next to the snapper and I think he would have to comply with the lineman restriction if he were to receive a forward handoff.

BktBallRef Mon Sep 23, 2002 09:22am

Good point by Tom. If the TE was lkined up nect to the snapper, restrictions would exist.

Mike Simonds Mon Sep 23, 2002 03:59pm

5 yard rule applies to motion.
 
If the end goes in motion prior to the snap he must retreat at least 5 yards behind his line or stop and establish himself as a back for at least one second prior to the snap.

Theisey Mon Sep 23, 2002 09:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JimNayzium
I know a linemen must turn his back or be five yards deep to receive handoff, but can a tight end receive a forward handoff one yard deep without first turning his back...my gut says he is fine, but wanted to check with ya'll....
### just for the record Jim, where did you get this "be five yards back" statement for linemen to receive a handoff from? I think you are confusing a totally different rule with the forward handoff rule.

The five yard rule behind the NZ is for a player who started in motion from the line of scrimmage or from no-mans land and he did not stop to become a back first.

JimNayzium Tue Sep 24, 2002 09:54am

hey guys thanks for the responses,

i will tell you where i got the five yard info, from over the years just assuming a linemen could recieve a handoff as long as he is five yards deep when doing so, is this bad info, sounds like it.

for example if i ran statue of libert to a guard and handed off 8 yards deep he would not need to turn his back...is this wrong?

mikesears Tue Sep 24, 2002 03:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JimNayzium
hey guys thanks for the responses,

i will tell you where i got the five yard info, from over the years just assuming a linemen could recieve a handoff as long as he is five yards deep when doing so, is this bad info, sounds like it.

for example if i ran statue of libert to a guard and handed off 8 yards deep he would not need to turn his back...is this wrong?

Rules gurus, restrictions are only for handing the ball forward, right? Any play can hand the ball backwards or receive a backward handoff at any time, right?

BktBallRef Tue Sep 24, 2002 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mikesears
Quote:

Originally posted by JimNayzium
hey guys thanks for the responses,

i will tell you where i got the five yard info, from over the years just assuming a linemen could recieve a handoff as long as he is five yards deep when doing so, is this bad info, sounds like it.

for example if i ran statue of libert to a guard and handed off 8 yards deep he would not need to turn his back...is this wrong?

Rules gurus, restrictions are only for handing the ball forward, right? Any play can hand the ball backwards or receive a backward handoff at any time, right?

I'm no guru but yes, you are correct.

Mike Simonds Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:06pm

Words of wisdom for all you gurus...
 
A wise man once said:

"If you see a sacred cow, milk it for all its worth!"

verticalStripes Fri Oct 20, 2017 04:49pm

bumping up this old thread.

Fed Rules: Is this still true in 2017? A tight end could receive a handoff behind the line of scrimmage. No motion on this play.

JRutledge Sat Oct 21, 2017 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by verticalStripes (Post 1010397)
bumping up this old thread.

Fed Rules: Is this still true in 2017? A tight end could receive a handoff behind the line of scrimmage. No motion on this play.

Nothing has changed. The rule is the same as long as I can remember.

Peace


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