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commish34 Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:07pm

PAT circus
 
Had a youth league game (Fed Rules) where the QB takes a snap on a PAT where he thinks he can run the last 13 seconds of the game out. He turns and runs the length of the field through his own end zone. Now, when it is apparent that a TRY is unsuccessful, the play is dead. But what happens when it becomes unsuccessful because the QB just ran through his own end zone?

BktBallRef Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:32pm

Well, for one thing, there's still going to be 13 seconds on the clock. :)

8-3-2d
The try begins when the ball is marked ready for play. It ends when:
d. The ball becomes dead for any other reason.

w_sohl Sat Oct 24, 2009 05:45pm

The QB just caused a safety and his team will be kicking from the 20 with 13 seconds left in the game.

waltjp Sat Oct 24, 2009 09:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 632669)
The QB just caused a safety and his team will be kicking from the 20 with 13 seconds left in the game.

Safety on a PAT?

yankeesfan Sat Oct 24, 2009 09:31pm

i thought this would result in a one point safety. kick off from the 40 yard line.

Canned Heat Sat Oct 24, 2009 09:59pm

I'm also assuming this would be a safety. His actions caused the ball to become dead in his own endzone.

Doc-WI Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:25pm

NFHS: Team B cannot score points during a Team A try. The Try is an chance for Team A only to score 1 or 2 points. R. 8-3-3 That includes A running out of their EZ or B recovering the ball in A's EZ. No points for B.

However, if using the recommended NFHS tie breaking procedure, even though the ball is also dead when Team B secures possession on downs 1 thru 4; if A runs out of their EZ it is a 2pt safety or if B recovers the ball in A's EZ its a TD.

Hope that helps
Doc

jaybird Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:20am

1) The try is unsuccessful.
2) KO from the 40.
3) The QB (and coach) are idiots!

w_sohl Sun Oct 25, 2009 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankeesfan (Post 632683)
i thought this would result in a one point safety. kick off from the 40 yard line.

This is what I thought too, guess I was wrong for NFHS.

Texas Aggie Sun Oct 25, 2009 08:37pm

NCAA: 1 point safety in favor of Team B. However, Team A still kicks from the original line (30, unless displaced by penalty) and not the 20. It also has to be a place kick.


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