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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 05:56pm
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illegal participation on the defense
Fed rules:
The BJ missed his count before the snap. A had the ball 1st and 10 on the 50 yardline. The results of the play was a 30 yard run to the B 20 yardline. After the play, the BJ throws a flag for 12 men participating on defense. What is the enforcement? Thanks in advance. 
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 06:56pm
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Half the distance to the goal, 1st down for A at the 10. Then you tell your BJ and LJ (with a smile of course) to get their S#$^ together and count while B is in the huddle.
Last edited by schmitty1973; Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 06:59pm.
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 07:15pm
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This is the team's fault, not the Back Judges fault. And depending on the nature of the substitution, it might have been very late to get a count before.
And the biggest fallacy is that the defense actually huddles. Defenses often do not huddle and they have players running all over the place for substitutions. And if you use a common philosophy, you give the defense some time to get players on and off the field. And if you are doing the counting right, there should be someone else other than the BJ doing counting as well. Peace
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 07:45pm
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We debated whether the enforcement spot would be the previous spot because the "foul occured simultaneously with the snap".
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 08:02pm
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Let us get into "Good Trouble." ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 08:13pm
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Correct, this is previous spot since the foul is simultaneous with the snap. If the player entered during the down and participated, you'd enforce via all but one.
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Sun Oct 11, 2009, 05:45pm
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