Injury or Equipment Time-out

[commish34]

If an official discovers an injured player and stops the clock, does that player have to be removed if the coach calls time-out prior to the ready-for-play being delayed for 25 seconds?

Also, if a player is to be removed for "one down," can he return if a play has occured when there is a penalty and a replay of down? Example: A4 is injured on the play and is removed for a down. When play begins it is 2nd down. At the snap A is called for a)Illeg Procedure b) holding. If the penalty is administered where the down is replayed, can A4 return for that down even though it is still 2nd down?

References...

3-5-2... A charged team time-out occurs when the ball is dead and:
b) the repair of faulty player equipment requires the assistance of a team attendant or attendants, or which, without assistance of a team attendant delays the ready-for-play signal for more than 25 seconds.

3-5-3... A single charged time-out shall not exceed one minute...

3-5-6... If repair of equipment without the assistance of a team attendant delays the ready-for-play signal for more than 25 seconds, or requires the assistance of a team attendant(s) and the players team has used all permissible time-outs, the player shall be replaced for one down.

3-5-10...A time-out occurs when:
a) An apparently injured player is discovered by the official while the ball is dead and the clock is stopped and for whom the ready-for-play signal is delayed, or for whom the clock is stopped. The player shall be replaced for at least one down, unless halftime or an overtime intermission occurs. This time-out, if not charged, is an official's time out.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by commish34

If an official discovers an injured player and stops the clock, does that player have to be removed if the coach calls time-out prior to the ready-for-play being delayed for 25 seconds?

Also, if a player is to be removed for "one down," can he return if a play has occured when there is a penalty and a replay of down? Example: A4 is injured on the play and is removed for a down. When play begins it is 2nd down. At the snap A is called for a)Illeg Procedure b) holding. If the penalty is administered where the down is replayed, can A4 return for that down even though it is still 2nd down?

1. You might think he could go back in if the team takes a time out -- part of the purpose of requiring the player to go out for a down is to prevent fake injuries used for free time outs. I don't think the rules permit this, though.

2. An injured player taken out for "one down" may re-enter after that down, even if a penalty is accepted and the down replayed. It's still a down, even if it's replayed.

[NorCalRef12]

If an official discovers the injury, the coach cannot buy his player back in by using a timeout. See Casebook 3.5.10 Situation A.

The rule also states that the player must stay out for one down. a down is defined as, "A down is action which starts with a legal snap (beginning a scrimmage down) or when the ball is kicked on a free kick (beginning a free-kick down). A down ends when the ball next becomes dead."

If a live ball foul occurs during the next down and A will repeat that down, the previously injured player can come back in since a down has been played. Note that this would only occur to live ball fouls. If a dead ball foul occurs, then the snap or kick never happened and the injured player will have to wait.

[ajmc]

You might want to carefully read NF: 3-5-10-a and b carefully. If an injured player is sent out of the game by an official, he must stay out for one down. He cannot buy himself back in with a charged TO. The only exceptions are the intermission between quarters and/ or over time.

The rule doesn't address any exception for a replayed down, so it seems the player MUSt stay out for one "DOWN". As the rule language specifies "down", rather than play, it follows no matter how many times the following "down" may be replayed, the injured player would not be eligible.

[ajmc]

You might want to carefully read NF: 3-5-10-a and b carefully. If an injured player is sent out of the game by an official, he must stay out for one down. He cannot buy himself back in with a charged TO. The only exceptions are the intermission between quarters and/ or over time.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by ajmc

You might want to carefully read NF: 3-5-10-a and b carefully. If an injured player is sent out of the game by an official, he must stay out for one down. He cannot buy himself back in with a charged TO. The only exceptions are the intermission between quarters and/ or over time.

That's wrong. He can't come back for the intermissions between quarters:

3-5-10a...An apparently injured player is discovered by the official while the ball is dead and the clock is stopped and for whom the ready-for-play signal is delayed, or for whom the clock is stopped. The player shall be replaced for at least one down, unless the halftime or an overtime intermission occurs. This time-out, if not charged, is an official’s time-out.

Originally Posted by kdf5

That's wrong. He can't come back for the intermissions between quarters:

3-5-10a...An apparently injured player is discovered by the official while the ball is dead and the clock is stopped and for whom the ready-for-play signal is delayed, or for whom the clock is stopped. The player shall be replaced for at least one down, unless the halftime or an overtime intermission occurs. This time-out, if not charged, is an official’s time-out.

Good catch. The underlying principle here is that the intermission between quarters are only 1 minute long, while the halftime and overtime intermissions are longer. (My guess why they wrote the rule that way) Makes sense, it goes with the principle of not buying the player's way back in with a timeout.