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Johnny Ringo Mon Sep 28, 2009 01:00am

Indiana/Michigan
 
Did anyone see the interception that was called late in the game? Was that the right call? The replay official did not overturn it ... thoughts?

mbyron Mon Sep 28, 2009 06:46am

For more input, you might consider posting a video.

bossman72 Mon Sep 28, 2009 09:45am

I thought it was simultaneous and if anything possession by the offense.

Did not care for the call.

JRutledge Mon Sep 28, 2009 09:55am

I did care and I thought it was a simultaneous catch from the live situation and I have not seen a replay from a good angle to change my mind initially.

And yes I was at the game. ;)

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Peace

Rich Mon Sep 28, 2009 09:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 627598)
I did care and I thought it was a simultaneous catch from the live situation and I have not seen a replay from a good angle to change my mind initially.

And yes I was at the game. ;)

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Peace

Agreed. My U (from my crew) and I saw it and we both looked at each other wondering how that could possibly be upheld.

FTVMartin Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:44am

I am a Michigan fan but I still think it was a simultaneous catch and should have been Indiana's ball.

JRutledge Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:56am

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Originally Posted by FTVMartin (Post 627615)
I am a Michigan fan but I still think it was a simultaneous catch and should have been Indiana's ball.

I am glad the call went the way it did, but I was surprised that the call initially resulted in an interception. It appeared the umpire ruled the catch an interception and after the officials got together no one had a better angle. The TV angles showed the back of the players (that I saw after getting home 10 hours later).

Peace

Ref Ump Welsch Mon Sep 28, 2009 04:40pm

I saw the play while sitting in the bar, harming my liver before attending the Nebraska game, and was stunned that the ruling was an interception. Even after the replays, I still couldn't figure out how the original ruling on the field was an interception. My friends (non-officials) asked me why I was stunned by it, and after explaining the rule, they all watched the replay and wondered alike.

mikesears Mon Sep 28, 2009 05:04pm

Any video of the play?

voiceoflg Mon Sep 28, 2009 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by mikesears (Post 627729)
Any video of the play?

YouTube - 2009: Michigan-36 Indiana-33

9:20 in.

TXMike Mon Sep 28, 2009 06:44pm

Another video

YouTube - Not an INT: Michigan vs. Indiana 2009


Yet another reason why umpires should not be ruling on passes. ;-)

And this is a Michigan fan's take on it, with still photos:
A Picture Story... Donovan Warren's Game SealingPick - Maize n Brew

mbyron Mon Sep 28, 2009 08:56pm

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 627725)
I saw the play while sitting in the bar, harming my liver before attending the Nebraska game, and was stunned that the ruling was an interception.

Isn't this the state pastime, or motto, or something like that? :D

Theisey Mon Sep 28, 2009 09:07pm

By the book, this is not a simultaneous catch as both players did not return to the ground at the same time..

Replay Official might have been able to overturn the ruling on the field if there was a camera angle or two from the opposite side. Unfortunately, there wasn't any such view. If anything he could have reminded the Referee that the Indiana player came down to the ground first... and if he had the ball, this could not have been a Simul-Catch. However, maybe he cannot even suggest that? I just don't know.

w_sohl Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:17pm

A SEC guy (director of officiating or something)...
 
said the player that first returns to the ground is considered to have possesion over the player to second return to the ground. It apparently isn't considered a simultaneous catch unless both players return to the ground at nearly the same moment.

bisonlj Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:06pm

Returning to the ground implies that they left the ground in the first place. Neither player was airborne when the ball was caught. My opinion was simultaneous catch.

w_sohl Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:29am

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Originally Posted by bisonlj (Post 627769)
Returning to the ground implies that they left the ground in the first place. Neither player was airborne when the ball was caught. My opinion was simultaneous catch.

I agree, simultaneous catch in my opinion. We'll never know the results of the review by the director of officiating for the BigTen, but I am sure that it will be part of a training video.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Sep 29, 2009 07:56am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 627751)
Isn't this the state pastime, or motto, or something like that? :D

On a football Saturday in Lincoln, yes it is! LOL. Last Saturday was more of a joyous occasion, as the Huskers were celebrating their 300th consecutive sellout, so more of us were doing more harming than usual. :D

As for the OP, I talked with a couple locals who work at the college level. They still are confused by watching all the replays on this catch at how the original call was made. They've even gone back in their books, looking at the rules and case plays, etc. Hopefully one of them will enlighten me sometimes later this week.

mbyron Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:36am

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 627795)
On a football Saturday in Lincoln, yes it is! LOL. Last Saturday was more of a joyous occasion, as the Huskers were celebrating their 300th consecutive sellout, so more of us were doing more harming than usual. :D

I heard that when the stadium is full it becomes the 3rd largest population center in Nebraska, surpassing Bellevue. True?

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:53am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 627834)
I heard that when the stadium is full it becomes the 3rd largest population center in Nebraska, surpassing Bellevue. True?

Yup, true. Matter of fact, the other night, there was enough people in the place that not only would it have been the 3rd largest population center in Nebraska, but the number would have almost equaled the populations of Bellevue and Grand Island (the 4th largest city) combined. :eek:


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