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john_faz Wed Sep 16, 2009 09:07am

Fair Catch or Not
 
Here's a scenario:

R1 calls for a fair catch on a scrimmage kick but does not catch the ball in flight. The ball hits the ground and he begins to run. Do you kill the play or let it go? Is there a foul on the play?

kdf5 Wed Sep 16, 2009 09:10am

If he gives a valid signal (or invalid for that matter) then the play will be over as soon as he possesses the ball. It's not a fair catch since it hit the ground so they can't free kick, etc, but the play is dead when he possesses it. You could flag him for delay of game if you thought he was doing that but I think when you blow the whistle, he'll stop.

bossman72 Wed Sep 16, 2009 09:54am

WHat if the runner gets hit/tackled after he possesses the ball?

kdf5 Wed Sep 16, 2009 09:59am

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Originally Posted by bossman72 (Post 625692)
WHat if the runner gets hit/tackled after he possesses the ball?

Unless the hit can be classified as a personal foul, you've got nothing.

mutzman Thu Sep 17, 2009 04:17pm

Once he gives the fair catch signal, for all practical purposes he takes himself out of the play for everything except catching the ball. Even more than that, he takes the team's ability to advance the ball out of play to so even if another teammate picks the ball up, it cannot be advanced.

NorCalRef12 Thu Sep 17, 2009 04:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdf5 (Post 625695)
Unless the hit can be classified as a personal foul, you've got nothing.

And make sure you give the defense the benefit of the doubt if the R player looks like he's trying to run. The important thing is to get on the whistle as soon as R gains possession to stop any of the nonsense.

Forksref Thu Sep 17, 2009 08:03pm

Once there is a fair catch signal given (valid or invalid) there will be NO return. Blow it dead as soon as the ball is possessed or becomes dead.

whitehat Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_faz (Post 625683)
Here's a scenario:

R1 calls for a fair catch on a scrimmage kick but does not catch the ball in flight. The ball hits the ground and he begins to run. Do you kill the play or let it go? Is there a foul on the play?

You mean the ball hits the ground and he picks it up and begins to run with it? Or, as you stated he does not touch the ball or possess it, he just gives a FC signal, lets the ball go its merry way, and he takes off running to who knows where?

bisonlj Sun Sep 20, 2009 08:09am

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Originally Posted by NorCalRef12 (Post 625988)
And make sure you give the defense the benefit of the doubt if the R player looks like he's trying to run. The important thing is to get on the whistle as soon as R gains possession to stop any of the nonsense.

A word of caution...don't be too quick to blow the whistle. I did this once on a short free kick and the ball went through the hands of the receiver and was covered by K. One of my two IWs. Make sure R makes the catch but blow it as quickly as possible after that!

NorCalRef12 Mon Sep 21, 2009 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by bisonlj (Post 626309)
A word of caution...don't be too quick to blow the whistle. I did this once on a short free kick and the ball went through the hands of the receiver and was covered by K. One of my two IWs. Make sure R makes the catch but blow it as quickly as possible after that!


Agreed!


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