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Old Sun Sep 13, 2009, 08:42pm
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Scrimmage Kick, kicked out of K's end zone

4th and 10 from K's 15 YL. Ball is snapped over K1's head and into End Zone. K1 chases ball into end zone and kicks the ball across endline. Safety...yes What is the proper sequence of events (bean bag, flag), options, and Rule Reference.

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Old Sun Sep 13, 2009, 08:50pm
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Flag the spot of the kick. Ball is dead when it crosses the endline, give safety signal.

Penalty accepted - enforced from own end zone - safety. 10-5-4
Penalty declined - ball dead in K's own end zone not in player possession and K responsible for forcing it there - safety. 8-5-2b
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Old Mon Sep 14, 2009, 04:19am
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Flag the spot of the kick. Ball is dead when it crosses the endline, give safety signal.

Penalty accepted - enforced from own end zone - safety. 10-5-4
Penalty declined - ball dead in K's own end zone not in player possession and K responsible for forcing it there - safety. 8-5-2b
Why flag the spot of the kick? What's the foul?
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Old Mon Sep 14, 2009, 06:53am
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From the OP, it reads as if the "kicker" never recovered the bad snap and kicked the ball while it was loose ... Illegal Kick, Spot Foul
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Old Mon Sep 14, 2009, 10:11am
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Why flag the spot of the kick? What's the foul?
Illegal kicking... he didn't specify that he picked it back up and punted it, so I assume illegal kick.
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Old Mon Sep 14, 2009, 11:00am
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He did not pick up the ball....simply kicked while it was rolling on ground in end zone.
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Old Mon Sep 14, 2009, 08:38pm
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He did not pick up the ball....simply kicked while it was rolling on ground in end zone.
I see. That's illegal.

So you asked about mechanics. Here are some:

1. Flag the spot of the foul (endzone).
2. Signal safety as the result of the play.
3. Offer choice to R:
a. take the result of the play, a safety
b. take the penalty, a safety (not much of a choice)
4. Have K free kick from their 20.
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