Scrimmage Kick/Touchback

[tjones1]

K kicks the ball. R1 is in position to catch the ball... the ball bounces and touches him at about his 7-yard line. I bag the spot where he touched the ball. The ball then continues to roll and breaks the goal line. I kill it for a touchback.

I thought I got this correct but now I'm doubting myself.

1) I bagged the spot where R touched the ball to show I saw the touch and that K could recover. Was this correct?

2) Did I properly rule on the touchback?

Thanks.

[NorCalRef12]

Originally Posted by tjones1

K kicks the ball. R1 is in position to catch the ball... the ball bounces and touches him at about his 7-yard line. I bag the spot where he touched the ball. The ball then continues to roll and breaks the goal line. I kill it for a touchback.

I thought I got this correct but now I'm doubting myself.

1) I bagged the spot where R touched the ball to show I saw the touch and that K could recover. Was this correct?

2) Did I properly rule on the touchback?

Thanks.

1.
No reason for the bag. You only need to bag where the kick ends or if K touches the ball while it is in motion. The spot where R muffs the ball has no bearing.

2.
Yes, the loose ball was still a kick that crossed R's goal line, that results in a touchback.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by NorCalRef12

1.
No reason for the bag. You only need to bag where the kick ends or if K touches the ball while it is in motion. The spot where R muffs the ball has no bearing.

2.
Yes, the loose ball was still a kick that crossed R's goal line, that results in a touchback.

I know it has no bearing where he muffs it. However, I wanted to signify that the ball touched R.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I know it has no bearing where he muffs it. However, I wanted to signify that the ball touched R.

Why?

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I know it has no bearing where he muffs it. However, I wanted to signify that the ball touched R.

So if he muffs it then picks it up, are you throwing 2 bags?

[tjones1]

I suppose I wasn't too clear on the touching by R. I felt the touching by R wasn't dead obvious, it was touched after it hit the ground and R1 was going back to get the ball.

Originally Posted by bossman72

So if he muffs it then picks it up, are you throwing 2 bags?

I'm not if it went straight through his hands or on a play where it's dead obvious he touched it. However, on the play described, I didn't think it was obvious.

So if it wasn't obvious he touched it I suppose I would throw two bags.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I'm not if it went straight through his hands or on a play where it's dead obvious he touched it. However, on the play described, I didn't think it was obvious.

So if it wasn't obvious he touched it I suppose I would throw two bags.

And where did you come up with this mechanic to use a bean bag to signal that R touched the ball? The bean bag is never used to signal that someone touched the ball. It is used to mark where things happen such as end of the run, end of the kick, first touching...

[NorCalRef12]

I'm not sure why you want to signify that R touched the ball. You do not need to signify to R, K, or the fans that R touched the ball. If K recovers, then the ball becomes dead and belongs to them at that spot. You will signify that he touched it when you signal 1st down for K.