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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 11:30am
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What is a shoe spat?

If anyone has a problem being reminded to officiate the safety rules i.e. illegal blocks, face masks, etc. they need to find a new hobby.

If you don't like enforcing uniform rules - get better - move up - have a new rule code - and then complain about enforcing those uniform rules.

Sorry, touches a nerve, I get annoyed by officials who don't enforce the rules.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 12:36pm
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What is a shoe spat?
Is there another kind?

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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 01:51pm
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I've always wondered about the tape around the belt and sad to say but I've let that one go. Now the other stuff, the excessive face paint, writing on arms, arm bands, leg bands, etc. I've enforced. I would really like to print off or photo copy the POE's that describe what's acceptable and what's not and give it to coaches during the pregame meeting. Guess that's why I am not a R.

A "shoe spat" is usually made of fabric of some kind and are used to cover up the ankles and shoes. They usually match the team's colors and really serve no purpose.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 02:24pm
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Robert, in addition to safety and fair play, the NFHS also considers sportsmanship to be an important tenet of high school athletics. Their rules in all sports relfect this thinking.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 06:12pm
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football cleat spats,athletic spats,soccer cleat spats,cleat covers,cleat taping, TeamSpats
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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 04:36pm
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Robert, in addition to safety and fair play, the NFHS also considers sportsmanship to be an important tenet of high school athletics. Their rules in all sports relfect this thinking.
What has face painting or stripes on a belt or arm to do with sportsmanship? Why's it "sporting" to have designs created by stitching, but not tape or makeup? How about tattoos? I've seen stickers on helmets.

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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 04:53pm
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If its in the rule book it has a reason to be there. im sure the committee doesn't sit around and make rules just to be making them. It is the job of the officials to enforce those rules whether we agree with them or not.
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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 05:01pm
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If its in the rule book it has a reason to be there. im sure the committee doesn't sit around and make rules just to be making them. It is the job of the officials to enforce those rules whether we agree with them or not.
Brandon, you're new here.

What NFHS is telling us is some officials are not doing their job for whatever reason. I personally know a group of officials that pretty much let everything go because to enforce the rules might mean they don't get a playoff game.

You'll see
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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 05:23pm
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What has face painting or stripes on a belt or arm to do with sportsmanship? Why's it "sporting" to have designs created by stitching, but not tape or makeup? How about tattoos? I've seen stickers on helmets.

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You're going to have to ask the Federation about why they consider those things to be sportsmanship issues, I'm simply conveying their reasoning for prohibiting those things.
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Old Thu May 21, 2009, 05:30pm
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You're going to have to ask the Federation about why they consider those things to be sportsmanship issues, I'm simply conveying their reasoning for prohibiting those things.
So you're guessing that they're matters of sportsmanship, but you can't see why they would be?

One poster said they don't just sit around and cook these rules up from nothing, but sometimes I wonder! Usually something like this comes up from state ***'ns. Were there some state ***'ns that had regulations on taped belts and face paint that Fed looked at and decided to adopt as rules? Could it have been a way of banning certain gang insignia without appearing discriminatory (at the cost of appearing weird & inscrutable)?

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