Face Tackling, Spearing or good hit?

[bigjohn]

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[ajmc]

Illegal Helmet contact.

[bigjohn]

OK, which one?

Rule 2 says:
SECTION 20 HELMET CONTACT – ILLEGAL
ART. 1 . . . Illegal helmet contact is an act of initiating contact with the helmet
against an opponent. There are several types of illegal helmet contact:
a. Butt Blocking is an act by an offensive or defensive player who initiates
contact against an opponent who is not a ball carrier with the front of his
helmet.
b. Face Tackling is an act by a defensive player who initiates contact with a
ball carrier with the front of his helmet.
c. Spearing is an act by an offensive or defensive player who initiates contact
against any opponent with the top of his helmet.

S&I Says:

Butt Blocking in 1 and 2 and face tackling in 3 are both tactics which involve driving the face mask, frontal area or top of the helmet directly into an opponent in blocking or tackling respectively. both result in a foul for illegal helmet contact.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

OK, which one?

Rule 2 says:
SECTION 20 HELMET CONTACT – ILLEGAL
ART. 1 . . . Illegal helmet contact is an act of initiating contact with the helmet
against an opponent. There are several types of illegal helmet contact:
a. Butt Blocking is an act by an offensive or defensive player who initiates
contact against an opponent who is not a ball carrier with the front of his
helmet.
b. Face Tackling is an act by a defensive player who initiates contact with a
ball carrier with the front of his helmet.
c. Spearing is an act by an offensive or defensive player who initiates contact
against any opponent with the top of his helmet.

S&I Says:

Butt Blocking in 1 and 2 and face tackling in 3 are both tactics which involve driving the face mask, frontal area or top of the helmet directly into an opponent in blocking or tackling respectively. both result in a foul for illegal helmet contact.

Who CARES? All of these fouls carry the same penalty.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

OK, which one?

That's the point you seem incapable, or unwilling, to accept, that it JUST DOESN'T MATTER. The separate classifications are simply there to help identify the foul situation, which is Illegal Helmet Contact.

[JRutledge]

Can we all agree it is at least not Butt Blocking? (A claim he tried to make earlier with the ball carrier)

Peace

[bigjohn]

I never claimed they were butt blocking either. NEVER!

If it doesn't matter why have all those definitions. Just say any contact initiated with the helmet is illegal?

[michrefdh]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Illegal Helmet contact.

Leading with the helmet.

[JRutledge]

It does not matter which one, they are all the same foul. If we want to get technical he hit him with the crown of his helmet. If you do not know the difference (which you do not) then that is your problem.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

YouTube - Big Football Hit - Safety hits FB

CANADIAN RULING:

Spearing. 15 yards + AFD.