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JugglingReferee Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:15am
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 574621)
Channeling Jurassic I see. :D
Ya; the ole' bugger rubbed off of me. :D

jimpiano Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:15am
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 574535)
As usual, the NFL referees are terrible in the Super Bowl. The defensive holding on the Cardinals was flat terrible just now.

The personal foul for roughing the QB against Arizona that gave Pittsburgh the first down was horrible.

The personal foul for roughing the holder was a joke on the field goal.

They missed an obvious block in the back against Pittsburgh on the 100 yard return at the end of the first half.

It was the same way the last time the Steelers were in the Super Bowl.
All of these arguments were rebutted in the other thread.

If the officials were "pro-Steelers", how did they call that holding in the end zone?

Sounds like this yahoo took the under.

JugglingReferee Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:19am
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 574569)
I can't believe anyone would argue the roughing the holder call. It was blatant and it was right in front of the one guy who is watching for exactly that.
What's funny about the RTH flag is that it is so rare, that it is often difficult to find footage of these plays, for training tape purposes. It's always nice to see "how the weird ones" happen - just to show that anything can happen.

Some people at the SB party I attended commented on how professionals could commit such egregarious infractions, citing the RTH and all the holding.

zm1283 Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:31am
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Originally Posted by jimpiano (Post 574656)
All of these arguments were rebutted in the other thread.

If the officials were "pro-Steelers", how did they call that holding in the end zone?

Sounds like this yahoo took the under.
Doesn't mean they were correct.

Sure they called some against the Steelers. Can't make it too obvious. I did think they did a good job on the holding calls on the linemen, but not the one on Arizona. That was ticky tack. The holding call on Pittsburgh in the end zone for the safety was an easy call. The center executed a perfect takedown on the d-tackle.

I didn't bet on the game and I'm not a fan of either team.

waltjp Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:36am
ZM, if I'm correct you're a basketball official, right? Please tell me, what's the general reaction on the basketball board when someone shows up and displays their ignorance about basketball officiating?

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:57am
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Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 574673)
ZM, if I'm correct you're a basketball official, right? Please tell me, what's the general reaction on the basketball board when someone shows up and displays their ignorance about basketball officiating?
He has not been around very long. He will find out around March when that board will be inundated with fans and names we have not seen.

Peace

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:00am
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Originally Posted by aschramm (Post 574579)
I think that a possible reason people think the game was poorly officiated was because there were so many penalties and it caused the game to slow down immensely. However, all of their penalty calls were completely justified.
And those same people would have complained if they did not call those penalties. You cannot win either way. And that is why you cannot care what people that do not officiate think. :D

Peace

Raymond Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:49am
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 574535)
As usual, the NFL referees are terrible in the Super Bowl. The defensive holding on the Cardinals was flat terrible just now.

The personal foul for roughing the QB against Arizona that gave Pittsburgh the first down was horrible.

The personal foul for roughing the holder was a joke on the field goal.

They missed an obvious block in the back against Pittsburgh on the 100 yard return at the end of the first half.

It was the same way the last time the Steelers were in the Super Bowl.
Just wondering, did the officials miss any calls against the Cardinals or make any bogus calls against the Steelers?

Raymond Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 574669)
Doesn't mean they were correct.
And what makes you correct?

zm1283 Mon Feb 02, 2009 02:07pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 574866)
And what makes you correct?
Oh I don't know, maybe because when I watch 10-12 NFL games per weekend from weeks 1-17, stuff like Holmes using the ball as a prop is called all the time.

zm1283 Mon Feb 02, 2009 02:09pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 574858)
Just wondering, did the officials miss any calls against the Cardinals or make any bogus calls against the Steelers?
I didn't think Harrison's personal foul penalty was that bad.

Are you asking if they missed anything that the Cardinals got away with?

Rich Mon Feb 02, 2009 02:57pm
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 574937)
Oh I don't know, maybe because when I watch 10-12 NFL games per weekend from weeks 1-17, stuff like Holmes using the ball as a prop is called all the time.
I have NFL Sunday ticket and here is the truth -- you can only watch 3 games on a Sunday and 1 on a Monday no matter how many are available to you. And many people watch the same number. Doesn't mean they are qualified to evaluate the Super Bowl officials, who, BTW, graded out #1 at their positions throughout the season.

Raymond Mon Feb 02, 2009 03:01pm
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 574937)
Oh I don't know, maybe because when I watch 10-12 NFL games per weekend from weeks 1-17, stuff like Holmes using the ball as a prop is called all the time.
What is the exact wording of the rule? I've seen player who act like the football is stuck to their hand when trying to spike it and not be penalized.

And yes, I was wondering if the Cards got away with any uncalled penalties. It seems odd that any objective viewer would only notice and note the things that went in favor of one team.

Adam Mon Feb 02, 2009 04:01pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 574601)
I think you're letting your bias against football officials cloud your judgment. As a fellow official, I think it is pretty sad you are not even willing to give these guys the benefit of the doubt.

How would you feel if we started slamming basketball officials in the basketball forum the way you do football officials?
They'd be treated just as they deserve to me treated; ridiculed and demeaned for our enjoyment.

Adam Mon Feb 02, 2009 04:04pm
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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 574637)
Next up for the fanboys: bashing the Final Four and NBA Finals refs. I can't wait. :rolleyes:
You can set your calendar to it.


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