The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Football (https://forum.officiating.com/football/)
-   -   Quote from Veteran Official that's seen the most A-11 Games in the Nation (https://forum.officiating.com/football/50898-quote-veteran-official-thats-seen-most-11-games-nation.html)

Ed Hickland Wed Jan 14, 2009 04:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodScout (Post 568540)
I don't care who's side you're on, that's funny. :p

This thread needs some humor:)

ajmc Wed Jan 14, 2009 04:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 568483)

I will roll my eyes, because the hypocracy in your statements are in many ways stunning.

Peace

I didn't realize, Mr. Rutledge, you were authorized to speak for everyone, or determine what has, or doesn't have any merit. I must have been absent the day you were crowned.

I didn't tell anybody what they could, or couldn't say. I suggested that the immediate reaction and what was said, by some, about a 50 year official, who doubtfully anyone knows personally, was disgraceful, and it was. Yes, you are overbearing and pompous, not always, but frequently you seem to relish climbing up on a high horse if someone dares disagree with you or offers a different perspective. For the record, it's not becoming and doesn't add to the level of credibility you seem so concerned with. Don't assume silence means agreement, more likely it's a sign of simply ignoring you, and rolling eyes.

I'd love to see you confine your remarks to the subject, and drop all this ancillary, imaginary BS you keep trying to inject into the discussion to accomplish nothing but blow smoke and defend previously excessive comments that added nothing to the discussion.

The "things you'de done" don't provide you with a license to slander anyone because you don't happen to agree with, or like, what they think is a good idea. You keep trying to twist this interaction into someting it's not. All I've suggested is that you, and others, went too far in trying to bully and intimidate someone you disagree with by attacking his character and motivation which at best you are only guessing at. If you had any sense of manners or civility, you'd have understood what I was saying and responded accordingly, rather than pump up all your bluster and try and defend being stupid by being more stupid.

All this agita about who I am, what I've done, where I'm from and how long I've been doing what we do, doesn't mean squat. If I offer something worthwhile that has value, that's good, you're welcome to consider it. If what I offer is stupid, irrelevant or you just don't agree with it, your absolutely free to disregard it. I have already told you I've been doing, this thing we do, a lot longer than you. That doesn't guarantee I'm right, but it also doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Someone referenced the "opinion" of a 50 year official, which like any opinion we're all free to accept or reject. Just who do you think you are that you can demand that somehow this man, who simply rendered an opinion, must justify his very existence, his career, his accomplishments to satisfy the mighty Mr. Rutledge. If you don't think his opinion is valid, then ignore it, but demanding someone meet with your approval, sounds awfully like a pompous a$$. You're not some judge, nobody owes you squat.

There are significant differences between you and me. I understand that my perception is not always the best perspective and am willing to consider a different approach to consider if it might just be better. You don't seem capable to even consider that you may not be absolutely correct, and seem iadverse to even suggesting a possibility you might be wrong. Personal perfection is a heavy cross to bear.

I'm not arguing the merits of the A-11 offense with you, I'm suggesting you sometimes you have a real big mouth and trying to bluster your way through mistakes isn't working for you. You can either take that with a grain of salt, or just dismiss it out of hand. Either way, that's your decision and how you decide is entirely on you.

Ed Hickland Wed Jan 14, 2009 04:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 568602)
I didn't realize, Mr. Rutledge, you were authorized to speak for everyone, or determine what has, or doesn't have any merit. I must have been absent the day you were crowned.

I didn't tell anybody what they could, or couldn't say. I suggested that the immediate reaction and what was said, by some, about a 50 year official, who doubtfully anyone knows personally, was disgraceful, and it was. Yes, you are overbearing and pompous, not always, but frequently you seem to relish climbing up on a high horse if someone dares disagree with you or offers a different perspective. For the record, it's not becoming and doesn't add to the level of credibility you seem so concerned with. Don't assume silence means agreement, more likely it's a sign of simply ignoring you, and rolling eyes.

I'd love to see you confine your remarks to the subject, and drop all this ancillary, imaginary BS you keep trying to inject into the discussion to accomplish nothing but blow smoke and defend previously excessive comments that added nothing to the discussion.

The "things you'de done" don't provide you with a license to slander anyone because you don't happen to agree with, or like, what they think is a good idea. You keep trying to twist this interaction into someting it's not. All I've suggested is that you, and others, went too far in trying to bully and intimidate someone you disagree with by attacking his character and motivation which at best you are only guessing at. If you had any sense of manners or civility, you'd have understood what I was saying and responded accordingly, rather than pump up all your bluster and try and defend being stupid by being more stupid.

All this agita about who I am, what I've done, where I'm from and how long I've been doing what we do, doesn't mean squat. If I offer something worthwhile that has value, that's good, you're welcome to consider it. If what I offer is stupid, irrelevant or you just don't agree with it, your absolutely free to disregard it. I have already told you I've been doing, this thing we do, a lot longer than you. That doesn't guarantee I'm right, but it also doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Someone referenced the "opinion" of a 50 year official, which like any opinion we're all free to accept or reject. Just who do you think you are that you can demand that somehow this man, who simply rendered an opinion, must justify his very existence, his career, his accomplishments to satisfy the mighty Mr. Rutledge. If you don't think his opinion is valid, then ignore it, but demanding someone meet with your approval, sounds awfully like a pompous a$$. You're not some judge, nobody owes you squat.

There are significant differences between you and me. I understand that my perception is not always the best perspective and am willing to consider a different approach to consider if it might just be better. You don't seem capable to even consider that you may not be absolutely correct, and seem iadverse to even suggesting a possibility you might be wrong. Personal perfection is a heavy cross to bear.

I'm not arguing the merits of the A-11 offense with you, I'm suggesting you sometimes you have a real big mouth and trying to bluster your way through mistakes isn't working for you. You can either take that with a grain of salt, or just dismiss it out of hand. Either way, that's your decision and how you decide is entirely on you.

Guess he did not take my advice.:rolleyes:

JRutledge Wed Jan 14, 2009 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 568602)
I'm not arguing the merits of the A-11 offense with you, I'm suggesting you sometimes you have a real big mouth and trying to bluster your way through mistakes isn't working for you. You can either take that with a grain of salt, or just dismiss it out of hand. Either way, that's your decision and how you decide is entirely on you.

My comments to you are not about the A-11 offense at all. And the funny thing I do not think I have even talked about the merits or lack there of in any of these recent discussions.

The funny thing is that I have asked you several times to verify your statements and you have chosen not to (because it is clear you have no evidence, just hyperbole). And I have yet to call you one name or suggest that you were out of line. I just asked for one statement where I or anyone said anything out of line and you have clearly not been able to produce one comment that I said or really what anyone has said. I can just reference your last few posts and I have more personal comments coming from you than you have ever read from me on this topic.

And if you do not like the way things take place here, you do not have to come here. But if you expect that I am going to back down from what I say, you have another thing coming (as from the song Judaist Priest used to say).


Peace

Rich Wed Jan 14, 2009 07:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 568437)
I'll try. I doubt very much whether you have sufficient intelligence to grasp anything of substance. Usually when really stupid people have nothing to add, they try and shout or be obnoxious out of frustration. You are a perfect example. (40 words)

I would never go into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

ajmc Wed Jan 14, 2009 08:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 568705)
I would never go into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Probably a good idea, RichMSN, I agree you likely wouldn't do all that well.

daggo66 Thu Jan 15, 2009 06:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 568723)
Probably a good idea, RichMSN, I agree you likely wouldn't do all that well.


Hmmm, sounds like a personal attack.

mbyron Thu Jan 15, 2009 07:18am

Has the rules committee met yet? *yawn*

TXMike Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:21am

Jan 24-25 I believe

Rich Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 568808)
Hmmm, sounds like a personal attack.

I'm a hyena. He can't make a personal attack against a hyena. :p

HLin NC Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:17pm

But are you viscous?:)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:34am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1