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DesertZebra Fri Jan 09, 2009 01:33pm

Nice article about Championship Game officials
 
ESPN the magazine had a nice article online that followed the officials for last night's chapionship game. Article included the preparations they took days in advance, to halftime adjustments. All in all, I think they did a nice job. Was hoping for "giving him the business" moment though.

A Day With The BCS Refs - ESPN The Magazine

BigGref Fri Jan 09, 2009 03:16pm

another good article about football officials. It came out surprisingly quick though. i only saw the second half, and that was a well officiated half, yeah you got to throw the USC when Tebow does right in someones face.

BktBallRef Sat Jan 10, 2009 02:11pm

Cherry's not my favorite ACC referee but the crew did a great job IMO.

jaybird Sat Jan 10, 2009 02:43pm

It is always good to read a positive story about sports officials but we must understand the the writer, Ryan McGee, is somewhat biased as the retiring official, field judge Jerry McGee, is his father. He pretty well sugar-coated the story about the crew who, at best, had an average game.

BktBallRef Sat Jan 10, 2009 03:43pm

What exactly was average about it?

jaybird Sat Jan 10, 2009 04:01pm

A few items of note:

The R signals were sloppy, announcements were horrible and he had a "deer in the headlights" look.

The H had his penalty flag hanging out of his back pocket.

At least once, a deep guy froze and then got beat deep.

The crew missed 2 DPI and one very blatant PF as a DB targeted, launched and made contact with his helmet.

Adding to this perception was the timing problems in the 1st half.

I just didn't believe that this crew looked near as sharpe and professional as several other crews during the bowl season.

Rich Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaybird (Post 567121)
The H had his penalty flag hanging out of his back pocket.

So did Bernie Kukar and other Super Bowl officials for many years. So what?

Umpmazza Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaybird (Post 567121)
A few items of note:

The R signals were sloppy, announcements were horrible and he had a "deer in the headlights" look.

The H had his penalty flag hanging out of his back pocket.

At least once, a deep guy froze and then got beat deep.

The crew missed 2 DPI and one very blatant PF as a DB targeted, launched and made contact with his helmet.

Adding to this perception was the timing problems in the 1st half.

I just didn't believe that this crew looked near as sharpe and professional as several other crews during the bowl season.


man your a hard judge...are you a D-I coordinator for these Referee's.... I guess when your on the field for the Biggest game in College then maybe you can talk...JMO

SethPDX Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:01am

Guess the CFL guys I've seen on TV aren't that great. They keep their flags like that.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaybird (Post 567121)
A few items of note:

The R signals were sloppy, announcements were horrible and he had a "deer in the headlights" look.

The H had his penalty flag hanging out of his back pocket.

At least once, a deep guy froze and then got beat deep.

The crew missed 2 DPI and one very blatant PF as a DB targeted, launched and made contact with his helmet.

Adding to this perception was the timing problems in the 1st half.

I just didn't believe that this crew looked near as sharpe and professional as several other crews during the bowl season.

Oh I see....a fanboy from Oklahoma. I should have known. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/bs_sign.gif

aschramm Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:37am

BktBallRef beat me to it :D

jaybird Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 567237)
Oh I see....a fanboy from Oklahoma. I should have known. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/bs_sign.gif

One of your more asinine remarks, BBR, .. even though I am a fan (of football), I am from Oklahoma and I am a male so I guess that makes me a boy (even though I am almost 52) but as people who know me will attest, I am not an OU fan.

You asked how I could say the crew did an average job so I gave a few obviously glaring examples which happen to be true and the best you can do is make a snide remark. These type comments are the very reason that I no longer participate on the NFHS forum. Come on big fellow, you're better than that.

BTW.. some other officials from various other states made the same observations as I did.

Rich Sun Jan 11, 2009 02:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaybird (Post 567244)
One of your more asinine remarks, BBR, .. even though I am a fan (of football), I am from Oklahoma and I am a male so I guess that makes me a boy (even though I am almost 52) but as people who know me will attest, I am not an OU fan.

You asked how I could say the crew did an average job so I gave a few obviously glaring examples which happen to be true and the best you can do is make a snide remark. These type comments are the very reason that I no longer participate on the NFHS forum. Come on big fellow, you're better than that.

BTW.. some other officials from various other states made the same observations as I did.

All of whom were not working the NCAA BCS Championship.

Forksref Sun Jan 11, 2009 08:50am

Gosh, I wish I was perfect.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 567278)
Gosh, I wish I was perfect.

Exactly.

No, Ron Cherry is not the most articulate referee, nor does he have the greatest mechanics. And no, no everyone always stuffs their flag completely back in their pocket during the course of the game. Yes, the BJ got beat but made the necessary adjustment as documented in the story. Helmet to helmet contact occurs all the time but is rarely called except in the NFL on a QB. I have no idea how the on field officials are supposed to be able to control what the ECO is doing., past properly signalling at the end anf beginning of each play.

In spite of all their short comings, they were selected to work the BCS Championship game.

So yes, I say again. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/bs_sign.gif

jaybird Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 567257)
All of whom were not working the NCAA BCS Championship.

... but did the last 2 years.

jaybird Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 567278)
Gosh, I wish I was perfect.

Don't we all but don't give up as we should always strive for perfection.

One thing that we are all told is to "Get the Big One" or as one of them said "Whales not Minnows" and it was apparent that they missed 3 or 4 BIG ones. These were observations made by several officials around the country and not meant to belittle or ridicule the crew. Shared with the crew, these items could be taken as constructive criticism in order for them to improve and continue to strive for perfection.

HossHumard Mon Jan 12, 2009 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 567231)
Guess the CFL guys I've seen on TV aren't that great. They keep their flags like that.

99 times out of 100, if you see a Canadian Official (pro or not) with his flag stuffed in his back pocket, he's from the West. Flag coming out of the front pocket (we call them the "gunslingers"), he's from the east.

Dates back to the 50's and before when the East and Western Conference of the CFL did not play an interlocking schedule except for the Grey Cup...but the tradition still carries on to this day.

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 12, 2009 04:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossHumard (Post 567768)
99 times out of 100, if you see a Canadian Official (pro or not) with his flag stuffed in his back pocket, he's from the West. Flag coming out of the front pocket (we call them the "gunslingers"), he's from the east.

Dates back to the 50's and before when the East and Western Conference of the CFL did not play an interlocking schedule except for the Grey Cup...but the tradition still carries on to this day.

A number of officials from the east have adopted the NFL style: ball in the front. And not a single person tapes the ball with white tape to hide the fact that they have a flag. If they did, they would be laughed at, and justifiably so.

Forksref Mon Jan 12, 2009 05:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 567782)
A number of officials from the east have adopted the NFL style: ball in the front. And not a single person tapes the ball with white tape to hide the fact that they have a flag. If they did, they would be laughed at, and justifiably so.

You'll have to laugh at my entire crew.


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