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ajmc Thu Jan 15, 2009 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 569161)
Read the question again, this time for comprehension. I did not ask you to speak for KB. I asked you to speak for yourself. I asked why do you think he would join an officials' forum in order to promote and make those claims. I am looking for your opinion. It's a valid question. Many of us have stated our opinions and I will be glad to offer mine again. I'm just curious about your opinion and I think it would be interesting.

Therein lies the difference, I just don't think my opinion of why someone, I don't know at all, might choose to do, or not do, say or not say, something about a matter I have no reason to consider, is of enough value for me to share with anyone. When I usually conclude that I have nothing of value to offer, remaining silent on the subject, seems to make the most sense.

JRutledge Thu Jan 15, 2009 06:10pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569171)
Therein lies the difference, I just don't think my opinion of why someone, I don't know at all, might choose to do, or not do, say or not say, something about a matter I have no reason to consider, is of enough value for me to share with anyone. When I usually conclude that I have nothing of value to offer, remaining silent on the subject, seems to make the most sense.

Now I get it, we cannot give opinions (on a discussion board mind you) because you do not know the guy personally. Do you have to go out to dinner with a person to make a judgment on someone's motives when they come to your place to try to sell you on an idea?

I am sorry, but that is not how it works. And you have given your opinion about other people and you do not know them either. I am not sure why the question you were asked is any different.

In other words you are a complete fraud and hypocrite. Thanks for proving that point to everyone with these last statements (Was that a personal attack?) http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...aughing024.gif

Peace

waltjp Thu Jan 15, 2009 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569005)
Perhaps I respond because I don't want the smell of your garbage to taint the stripes of my shirt.

Again, this from the person decrying personal attacks. LOL.

Ed Hickland Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:20pm

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Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 569179)
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Perhaps I respond because I don't want the smell of your garbage to taint the stripes of my shirt.
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Again, this from the person decrying personal attacks. LOL.

Can you imagine him on your crew. :(:rolleyes:

waltjp Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:38pm

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Originally Posted by Ed Hickland (Post 569203)
Can you imagine him on your crew. :(:rolleyes:

That's rhetorical, right?

Ed Hickland Thu Jan 15, 2009 09:27pm

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Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 569207)
That's rhetorical, right?

Yep!

JRutledge Thu Jan 15, 2009 09:27pm

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Originally Posted by Ed Hickland (Post 569203)
Can you imagine him on your crew. :(:rolleyes:

I would quit.

Peace

ajmc Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:35am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 569173)
Now I get it, we cannot give opinions (on a discussion board mind you) because you do not know the guy personally. Do you have to go out to dinner with a person to make a judgment on someone's motives when they come to your place to try to sell you on an idea?

I am sorry, but that is not how it works. And you have given your opinion about other people and you do not know them either. I am not sure why the question you were asked is any different.

Peace

Sorry, you don't get it, or perhaps just don't want to admit getting it. You can make whatever judgments, form whatever opinions, you like. Just because you form an opinion, doesn't require that you share it, dictate how you share it, or whether anyone cares that you've bothered to share it. You are trying so hard, reaching so far, to try and make yourself sound glib, and it just isn't working.

I haven't offered an opinion about anyone, I've just answered a direct question, stupid and leading as it may have been. When I have nothing worth adding, I usually try and remain silent, but I've interacted enough with you to know all I need to know about how best to respond to you, considering all your barking and bluster.

JRutledge Fri Jan 16, 2009 01:04am

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569254)
Sorry, you don't get it, or perhaps just don't want to admit getting it. You can make whatever judgments, form whatever opinions, you like. Just because you form an opinion, doesn't require that you share it, dictate how you share it, or whether anyone cares that you've bothered to share it. You are trying so hard, reaching so far, to try and make yourself sound glib, and it just isn't working.

I am a grown azz man, I will share whatever opinion I want to and I do not think you are in a position to dictate how I share those opinions or whom I share them with. You certainly do not have the power to dictate what I say or how I say it. ;)

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569254)
I haven't offered an opinion about anyone, I've just answered a direct question, stupid and leading as it may have been. When I have nothing worth adding, I usually try and remain silent, but I've interacted enough with you to know all I need to know about how best to respond to you, considering all your barking and bluster.

You have added nothing to this entire board and you have told everyone how to speak, what opinions to share and what questions to ask. It is rather humorous to me and others how you want to preach to everyone on how to speak, but you are giving your opinion too. Though you do not have the balls to answer a simple question when asked by the people here, that sounds awful familiar. Maybe you are just Kurt masking as another moniker. That is an old internet trick.

Call it what you like, but it is true. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...rum/trolls.gif

Peace

mbyron Fri Jan 16, 2009 09:51am

Must be the off season. sheesh.

jaybird Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:13am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 569259)
I am a grown azz man, I will share whatever opinion I want to and I do not think you are in a position to dictate how I share those opinions or whom I share them with. You certainly do not have the power to dictate what I say or how I say it. ;)



You have added nothing to this entire board and you have told everyone how to speak, what opinions to share and what questions to ask. It is rather humorous to me and others how you want to preach to everyone on how to speak, but you are giving your opinion too. Though you do not have the balls to answer a simple question when asked by the people here, that sounds awful familiar. Maybe you are just Kurt masking as another moniker. That is an old internet trick.

Call it what you like, but it is true. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...rum/trolls.gif

Peace

Attaboy Jeff!

ajmc Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 569259)
I am a grown azz man, I will share whatever opinion I want to and I do not think you are in a position to dictate how I share those opinions or whom I share them with. You certainly do not have the power to dictate what I say or how I say it. ;)

You have added nothing to this entire board and you have told everyone how to speak, what opinions to share and what questions to ask. It is rather humorous to me and others how you want to preach to everyone on how to speak, but you are giving your opinion too. Though you do not have the balls to answer a simple question when asked by the people here, that sounds awful familiar. Maybe you are just Kurt masking as another moniker. That is an old internet trick.

Peace

It's way past time you began acting like, "a grown azz man", instead of an angry teenager with an over inflated ego chip on his shoulder. Obviously you can't mount a rational argument to what I say, so you bellow about what you think I should mean. Grown azz men don't make up silly "stuff" to suit their needs and they're capable of getting a point across without trying to prop up whatever they are trying to say with a bunch of superflous BS.

All this nonsense started because you didn't like, and just can't accept, that you, and others, let your mouths get in the way of your thoughts and felt it more important to strut your ego than keep a discussion civil. If you want to act like a bully and a blow hard, that's entirely up to you, but you shouldn't be surprised when you're told it's making you look like an azz. Sadly, this ego thing makes a lot of the rest of us look like azzes, simply by association.

It's your parent's job to teach you how to speak, and not my role to make up for what they failed to get across, but when overblown ego and a rampant sense of self importance splashes mud on the rest of us, it needs to be pointed out, because you're just not competent enough to realize it by yourselves.

If any of you have some rational question, simple or not, you need answered, and can figure out how to ask it rationally and I'll be happy to answer it. Do us all a favor by not wasting your time asking me to put words in someone else's mouth or to surmise why they did, or didn't do, whatever it is you want an explanation about. That's not my role either.

asdf Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:17pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569367)
It's way past time you began acting like, "a grown azz man", instead of an angry teenager with an over inflated ego chip on his shoulder. Obviously you can't mount a rational argument to what I say, so you bellow about what you think I should mean. Grown azz men don't make up silly "stuff" to suit their needs and they're capable of getting a point across without trying to prop up whatever they are trying to say with a bunch of superflous BS.

All this nonsense started because you didn't like, and just can't accept, that you, and others, let your mouths get in the way of your thoughts and felt it more important to strut your ego than keep a discussion civil. If you want to act like a bully and a blow hard, that's entirely up to you, but you shouldn't be surprised when you're told it's making you look like an azz. Sadly, this ego thing makes a lot of the rest of us look like azzes, simply by association.

It's your parent's job to teach you how to speak, and not my role to make up for what they failed to get across, but when overblown ego and a rampant sense of self importance splashes mud on the rest of us, it needs to be pointed out, because you're just not competent enough to realize it by yourselves.

If any of you have some rational question, simple or not, you need answered, and can figure out how to ask it rationally and I'll be happy to answer it. Do us all a favor by not wasting your time asking me to put words in someone else's mouth or to surmise why they did, or didn't do, whatever it is you want an explanation about. That's not my role either.

ajmc realizes that the forum members have him figured out.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN37F...eature=related

:D :D :D

Adam Fri Jan 16, 2009 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 569120)
OK SnaQwells you now have the opportunity to lay out the facts that would validate the changes you've added, and charges you've made, or you can slink back under the rock of unsubstantiated character assassination. Your choice.

:D
wow, it's tempting to quote the self-appointed moral arbiter of the football forum.

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 568925)
Now, you're just being silly. Do you really expect me to wallow through all the garbage that's been laid out to prove to you where the smell comes from. Not likely.

I don't slink, however. This is really simple.

Kurt claimed he was not selling anything.
Kurt is selling stuff directly related to A-11, and his profit potential would be significantly diminished (that means he won't make as much, in case you live in Rio Linda) if the A-11 loophole is closed.

I believe this satisfies both of my assertions.

FWIW, I'm all for making a profit off of an idea; just be honest about it. There's a reason we demand full disclosure from information sources.

People don't trust lung cancer studies paid for by tobacco companies.

stevegarbs Fri Jan 16, 2009 02:13pm

It should be easy
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 569320)
Must be the off season. sheesh.

Well said. Haven't been here in a couple of months, see a thread with proposed rule changes and think "Ooh, neat, let's see what's being discussed."

Gadzooks this whole thread seems a waste of too much effort. :eek:

Want to get rid of the A-11? Limit the numbering exception to fourth down. Allows offense to substitute specialty players to cover the likely scrimmage kick and preserves ability to quick kick on other downs, where it is highly improbable a team would reveal the intention of quick kicking by utilizing the numbering exception.

Why isn't it this simple? :confused:


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