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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 10:53am
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Did they simulate action at the snap?
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 10:57am
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Did they simulate action at the snap?
Is that rhetorical or are you asking?

What is the definition of simulating action? They certainly shifted "hard" which I guess could be a simulation of action.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 11:15am
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I saw the game and still never understood why the penality was called, I dont officiate football but would like to know why a shift is permitted in some instances and not others????? Utes Deserve strong consideration for #1 after that victory IMOHO!!
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 03:17pm
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I saw the game and still never understood why the penality was called, I dont officiate football but would like to know why a shift is permitted in some instances and not others????? Utes Deserve strong consideration for #1 after that victory IMOHO!!
Humm, a fan (from Utah) saying "I don't know why a shift is permitted in some instances and not others" when the call (and the correct call) went against his team.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:37am
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Humm, a fan (from Utah) saying "I don't know why a shift is permitted in some instances and not others" when the call (and the correct call) went against his team.

Not to mention "Utes Deserve strong consideration for #1 after that victory IMOHO!!!!"
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 10:11am
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The Utah HC was pissed at the call, but it was clearly designed to make the defense encroach. LDUB has cited the correct rules reference (though you might have cited the source, Luke).

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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 11:49am
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Is that rhetorical or are you asking?
I'm asking. Because I didn't see it.

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What is the definition of simulating action? They certainly shifted "hard" which I guess could be a simulation of action.
It's like porn. You may not be able to define it, but you know it when you see it.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:00pm
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As we all know, what's planned, designed, practiced and beaten into the minds of players isn't what is always executed during a game. It really doesn't matter what the coaches believe satisfies the rule requirements, it's entirely dependent on what the covering official believes, and actually sees.

When teams design something to run so close to the line defining legal from illegal, PRESUMING it's OK, they have to accept the risk that their calculations may not fall on the same side of that line as the covering official's.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:39pm
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Was the play similar to this one:

YouTube - LSU Football - Silly 4th Down vs Bama
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 07:45pm
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Was the play similar to this one:

YouTube - LSU Football - Silly 4th Down vs Bama
Yep
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