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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 04:46pm
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From the Desk of Kurt Bryan: Sports, Politics & Entertainment...: A-11 Offense & the Impact on High School Football

Apparently this is what he is submitting to the NFHS in an effort to head off any outlawing of his "product".
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I sure hope nobody around here (NE Ohio) tries this nonsense.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 08:15pm
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Hopefully, the NFHS will rid us of this sham. I know Mr. Dreibelbis, North Carolina High School Athletic Association Director of Officials. will be leading the charge. Either way, I still won't have to contend with it in N.C.
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Well done Kurt and Steve for preparing a convincing argument. Not everyone puts this much effort into something of the sort. It seems you certainly went through the proper channels to make your project legal.

The way I see it, the NFHS will either rule or not rule on the legality of the A-11.

If they do rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of the NFHS. Could a state association subsequently allow the A-11?

I the do not rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of each a state association.

Is this accurate?
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 08:45pm
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Wouldn't you put a lot of effort into something that , if it is not successful, means you lose all credibility and a good chunk of change?

In all that verbiage there, they do not even address the fundamental issue which is : what is the purpose for even having a numbering exception.

If someone wants to start a Canadian football league in the US, go for it. If someone wants to start an A-11 league in the US, go for it. But don't try to sneak around the intent of the rules to bastar_ize existing leagues.
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If someone wants to start a Canadian football league in the US, go for it. If someone wants to start an A-11 league in the US, go for it. But don't try to sneak around the intent of the rules to bastar_ize existing leagues.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 09:12pm
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Well done Kurt and Steve for preparing a convincing argument. Not everyone puts this much effort into something of the sort. It seems you certainly went through the proper channels to make your project legal.
You believe everything he wrote?

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The way I see it, the NFHS will either rule or not rule on the legality of the A-11.

If they do rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of the NFHS. Could a state association subsequently allow the A-11?
I disagree. They haven't yet. Why would they now? They'll simply pass or defeat the proposals to limit SKF during obvious kicking situations.

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If they do not rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of each a state association.
State associations are the final say on interpretations in their state.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:44pm
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Well done Kurt and Steve for preparing a convincing argument. Not everyone puts this much effort into something of the sort. It seems you certainly went through the proper channels to make your project legal.

The way I see it, the NFHS will either rule or not rule on the legality of the A-11.

If they do rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of the NFHS. Could a state association subsequently allow the A-11?

I the do not rule, then the A-11 is either legal or not legal based on the ruling of each a state association.

Is this accurate?
States can do whatever the heck they want when it comes to interpretations. The NF has no judicial power to make a state follow all rules if a state has determined something illegal or out of bounds. I was also told that states have much more leeway to be more restrictive when it comes to rules.

All the NF can do is take away a voting right when it comes to new rules and other NF business. If a state does not care, they can take whatever action they like.

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Typical – Kurt again reviews his submission and approval process, and even states that he had “questions regarding was the new offense an unfair act, was it a travesty of the game or deceptive, and was it within the spirit of the rules of the game.”

After reviewing the package they received their answer, “In February 2007 via the telephone, Stearns informed Coach Bryan that the A-11 Offense was indeed legal to use.”

No mention is made about the “spirit of the rules,” and I don’t believe anyone argued here that the A-11 is illegal under the current rules. I do believe we’ll be hearing differently very soon.

Kurt is a carnival huckster. He sees the writing on the wall and knows his sham will be over soon.
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