The field goal was where it was used, but one could easily imagine other scenarios. 4th down or a try would've been the most attractive situations.

It's advantageous because all players are eligible to recover, and if your linemen release downfield they're likely to overwhelm the defense in their way. And there'd be no rule against their knocking defenders away, and they could even push (though not pull or grasp) opponents with their hands in a personal attempt to get at the ball. Plus, the linemen are likely to outweigh their opponents in the secondary.

But not accurately enough to allow for a mass charge of your line after the ball.

Robert

Please read the entire paper, and I am sorry you do not believe it, or might not believe the lay out of the process we went through, it is extremely detailed and all listed in our paper. As listed, we already underwent everything listed in the paper, names, details, and process all detailed.

Again this is for the rules committee to review, the paper will allow each member of the NFHS committee to look at the process we went through and the facts and results of the offense.:)

*Oh by the way, an earlier poster said the A-11 was not legal in the NFL, However, as Tennessee Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher found out and revealed in his interview with ESPN Magazine this week, the A-11 IS LEGAL in the NFL. Yes, that is correct.

NFL Players # 50 - 79 can report as Eligible, then they must sit out one play, so the Tennessee Titans are working on a package allowing them to run it. That would be great.

Happy New Year, KB

The forward pass existed longer before eligible receiver shirt numbering than it has since.

Again..... 3rd time.....

Why the need for the paper if your offense has already been approved?

Why does the NFHS committee need to look at the process if they were already party to the process ??? (approval)

OK, now I get your question.

Answer: There was Not a need for it, just told it would be a good idea to present our position since some people will bring opposing views to the table.

Thanks, KB :)

You obviously do not know the history and my opinion about Kurt or anyone is not based on anything other then their actions. Kurt has misrepresented many people's positions in order to further his position on this offense. If anything is reprehensible, that should be the case. He has even gone far to suggest the NF has "approved" of the offense when many people on the committee have commented and suggested this violated the spirit and intent of the rules and the rules would be at the very least revisited. And Kurt did not do this on just an article or with a reporter; he did so on this site and the National Federation's site where officials and coaches discuss rules and interpretations. And if that bothers you, then this place is really going to be hard for you to stick around if challenging people's opinions and motives cannot be stated.

I know little about Kurt's emotions, but he does come here often to defend or lie about what people have said about his offense. It is clear that he is trying to sell something and that is what has a lot of people on his case. And the more and more we talk to Kurt, that becomes clearer and clearer. Kurt has on several occasions tried to suggest he was not selling any books or any information about his offense. He has said that he is only trying to promote the game of football. Well that is not true and this thread has exposed that very point of view.

Actually for many people, we do not care that much about the offense either. I have officiated the offense, but I feel the rules are going to change to resemble the NCAA and NFL Rules that would make this situation illegal.

It is clear that you do not know the history or previous comments made by Kurt. You do not know how he has misrepresented others either on the NF board or officials in their opposition or support of this so called offense. And if that offends you when I say that, I guess you are just going to be mad. I do not think I have done anything to Kurt that he has not done to himself. If he did not want the opinions of others, then you do not come to a website and share those opinions.

Now Rut, KB has done told us the NFL permits this so don't you go a-saying they don't. (Can someone please tell me why a team like the Tennessee Titans that is basically destroying everyone they play, would even tinker around with this lunacy? I think someone is playing mind games)

And KB- you, once again, skirt the issue by saying that because 6 guys could wear ineligible numbers but report in and be eligible, that makes it just like what you are doing. BS! In the NFL the eligibles are identifiied to everyone after they report in, not 1 second before the snap like in your little game.

That's why he's right: ninth year of the new century (and millennium). Use your fingers if you need to. :D

ESPN Mag quote - from Titans coach Jeff Fisher, the other co-chair of the NFL's competition committee says "He has no interest in modifying the rules to allow for a full blown A11, becasue it would alter the game too radically. No matter. Bryan and Humphries have twisted and bent the fundamentals, philosophy and geometry of football."

Guys I am seeing the light and the root of your frustration. Fundamentals, philosophy and geometry are not the only things being twisted and bent.
Certainly sounds to me like its legal and Jeff loves it. :)

I would love to see it! By the time the 6 players got set and reported you'd have a DOG every time. Anyway I thought the whole purpose of the A-11 was to help small schools who had small players compete against larger schools with larger players. (does the size of the nearest high school affect growth rates?) My guess is that the average offensive lineman is 6'5" 300#'s. If you need someone bigger you don't need to change your offense, you just sign someone bigger. Everything in KB's position paper is designed with one thing in mind, keeping everyone's attention away from rule 7.2.5b.

THat's freakin' hilarious!!!! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

"cause he's skeered...skeered they're gonna shut him down!

wow
 

Dear Officials:

It is without merit that a few posters on this site, habitually cut down, verbally abuse and flat out lie, especially considering that the ones abusing this board are football officials. Not all indeed, but just a few, it is sickening, as some Officials on this board have pointed out.

1. Why on earth when the CIF suggested we write a position paper about the offense would we refuse? .............seems perfectly logical position to ask for a piece to be done representing our perspective, and those of other coaches, players and officials who have handled the offense.

2. We put forth the facts and history of the offense, nothing misrepresented, in fact, we used exact names, quotes and timelines. You will see when the NFHS rules committee reviews it, that yes indeed all chronilogical items listed in the paper will be found as 100% factual. And, with quotes from coaches and officials, FROM BOTH sides we tried to be fair and balanced.

3. Selling of Products? ..............Our staff is just like THOUSANDS of other male and female coaches worldwide, we were asked to have our information developed by a professional football company (just like they do with other coaches) and we said yes, it was an honor.

4. Scared (as Bktball ref said above)........What? Scared of what? Our case has not only been well documented, by our staff and officials in this region, but now by many other coaches and officials in many other states. It is scary on the other hand, when a small percentage of officials have gone on the record to say the offense cannot be officiated and are shouting..............but the reality of the offense and testimony from Actual Officials working A-11 games in Many states goes in Direct Opposite and they are on Record as saying the Offense is Indeed able to be Officiated properly.

5. There is plenty of room in America for more than one brand of football...that has been the case and always shall remain that way.

*Lastly, as one of the Officials on this board has made great pains to point out, to the officials on this board who continue to be verbally abusie, slanderous and libelous, please stop. Your ugliness is a sad testimony to your lack of maturity and class. It is frightening to think of what is behind it.

As always, I have nothing but respect for ALL opinions and perspectives, but please be kind enough to keep things clean.

Best of luck and Happy New Year to all of you. :)

KB

The bending and twisting has been going on since he first arrived on officiating forums.

The outcry started when he tried to use the sites as a conduit to sell his product.

Kurt,

This is an officials forum and you are not getting what you want so wise up and go away!