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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 04:41pm
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Are you sure that the ruling wasn't that a legal forward pass has already been attempt prior to the pass that was ruled illegal?
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 05:13pm
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Are you sure that the ruling wasn't that a legal forward pass has already been attempt prior to the pass that was ruled illegal?
Only one pass was thrown.

The play in question: YouTube - NFL week 10 2008 Green bay Packers Aaron Rodgers Safety Vs, Vikings
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 05:23pm
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Are you sure that the ruling wasn't that a legal forward pass has already been attempt prior to the pass that was ruled illegal?
If there was already a legal forward pass, someone would have had to catch it for the play to continue, right?
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 05:29pm
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I wondered the same thing. The receiver was definitely in the direction of the pass so I was surprised when I saw the flag. We he gave the signal and announced illegal forward pass and not intentional grounding, I assumed there was some aspect of the rule I did not know. As a Vikings fan I was happy about it though! Another strange Vikings game! They have found the strangest way to win games this year.
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The foul had to be intentional grounding, mistakenly announced as illegal forward pass.
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That was IG?

Wow....
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 06:15pm
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The foul had to be intentional grounding, mistakenly announced as illegal forward pass.
Intentional grounding is an illegal forward pass.

The pass did not make it back to the LOS, so even if he's outside the tackle box, it's still IG.

Previous obvious call IMO.
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 07:08pm
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No doubt IG---throwing a pass in an effort to avoid a loss of yardage. I dont have a problem with the call. The explaination yes....the call no.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 07:03am
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No doubt IG---throwing a pass in an effort to avoid a loss of yardage. I dont have a problem with the call. The explaination yes....the call no.
so anytime somebody throws a pass to avoid a loss of yardage, that's intentional grounding? that's what you make it sound like. qb's "throw the ball away" all the time, which is perfectly legal as long as you are either outside the pocket or there is a receiver in the area. troy aikman said that both occurred. this was a crap call, and i'm going to watch for that show where they debate bad calls on nfl network. no doubt he will say it was a bad call.
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 07:10pm
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Looked like a good call to me since it was obvious he was just trying to get the ball out of the end zone. There was a receiver in the area but he didn't have a reasonable oppurtunity to catch it.

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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 12:02am
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Intentional grounding is an illegal forward pass.

The pass did not make it back to the LOS, so even if he's outside the tackle box, it's still IG.

Previous obvious call IMO.
How is intentional grounding the same as an illegal forward pass? They are enforced differently and have different signals.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 12:40am
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How is intentional grounding the same as an illegal forward pass? They are enforced differently and have different signals.

IG is one of the types of IFP's. It has it's one signal, but is a type of IFP.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 02:14am
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How is intentional grounding the same as an illegal forward pass? They are enforced differently and have different signals.
Intentional grounding is a type of illegal forward pass. Under Federation rules all illegal forward passes have the penalty. NCAA is slightly different as passes thrown to conserve yardage are peanlized different than passes thrown to conserve time or thrown from beyond the neutral zone and such. But still, they are all types of illegal forward passes.
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 08:29pm
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The foul had to be intentional grounding, mistakenly announced as illegal forward pass.
No the referee gave the signal and said " illegal forward pass"
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Old Sun Nov 09, 2008, 09:32pm
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There must be some NFL rule that none us know. Maybe this will be on the NFL network show.
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