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aschramm Wed Nov 05, 2008 01:43pm

Video Play
 
Is there anything wrong with this play since the player is in the air and out of bounds, or is it treated just like any other hook and ladder type plays?

Phenomenal Touchdown Flip PassVideo

JasonTX Wed Nov 05, 2008 02:15pm

The player was not out of bounds as he was not touching anything that was out of bounds. Good heads up play for the TD.

Brett Wed Nov 05, 2008 08:10pm

How often do you think they practiced this play?

MJT Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:18am

That is one of the best plays I've seen at the HS level!!!!

hawk65 Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:55am

Isn't the term "hook and lateral" (as in "hook" route by the receiver then a "lateral" to another player) as opposed to "hook and ladder" (which I believe is a term for firefighter's equipment)? If not, how does the term "hook and ladder" apply to football whereas "hook and lateral" are common (although somewhat outdated) football terms?

SC Ump Thu Nov 06, 2008 01:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 548853)
Isn't the term "hook and lateral"...

"Hook and Ladder" entered into Wikipedia gets directed to "Hook and Lateral", but does note that that both are common terms. It then gives you the option of choosing alternate searches for hook and ladder (chess) [sacrificing a piece to gain advantage] or fire apparatus.

The article speculates that either it is just a corruption of the term lateral or that there is a route sometimes called a ladder route where the receiver first turns button hooks out before heading downfield. (I've never heard of it, but I was always on the line.)

CWIG Thu Nov 06, 2008 01:25pm

Awesome play! I don't know where this game was played, but I'm not a big fan of the mechanics. It appears to be 6-man mechanics. I see a HL and a SJ but not a BJ. My question is why do the HL and SJ start in at the numbers? The SJ is forced to go backward, and then down the sideline for this play. That's alot of movement. Is this a standard mechanic in that area? And the HL appears to be just wandering around in the middle of the field!

JugglingReferee Thu Nov 06, 2008 05:58pm

If this video is the one where the dude catches the ball while airborne, and complete a backwards pass back into the EZ, then yes, the officials were using the correct mechanics for their state.

Source: refstripes.com

Forksref Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:01am

Whether these mechanics are approved or not, they are horrible.

The deep official spends time backing up to the sideline instead of going downfield. When the TE leaps from near the endline, by the time the official gets to the endline, the receiver has already made his play so I don't know how he can tell if the receiver was stepping on the endline or not.

This mechanic of starting at the numbers and then backing up negates the purpose of the deep official giving sound deep coverage. That backing up is totally wasted effort and time. Plus, we always want to have as wide an angle as possible to keep everything in front of us.


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