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ChickenOfNC Wed Nov 05, 2008 01:22pm

Hurdling or not?
 
Wanted to get some of your opinions about this video. This was our game Friday night. We did not flag this during the game, but after the play we all pretty much felt like it was a textbook hurdle. However, after seeing the video, we are less sure that the runner's foot or knee is foremost over the opponent.

Go to the 3:44 mark in the video:

Carolinas High School Sports | HS GameTime.com

Ed Hickland Wed Nov 05, 2008 02:50pm

I say hurdle. Looks very a lot like the collegiate player who hurdled a defensive player a few weeks ago.

waltjp Wed Nov 05, 2008 04:12pm

Clearly a hurdle. Knee-first.

HLin NC Wed Nov 05, 2008 09:11pm

That right knee is leading. However the definition
Quote:

SECTION 22 HURDLING
Hurdling is an attempt by a player to jump (hurdle) with one or both feet or
knees foremost over an opponent who is contacting the ground with no part of
his body except one or both feet.
says KNEES (plural) so is one knee ok but two not? Inquiring minds want to know.

JugglingReferee Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:14pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickenOfNC (Post 548695)
Wanted to get some of your opinions about this video. This was our game Friday night. We did not flag this during the game, but after the play we all pretty much felt like it was a textbook hurdle. However, after seeing the video, we are less sure that the runner's foot or knee is foremost over the opponent.

Go to the 3:44 mark in the video:

Carolinas High School Sports | HS GameTime.com

CANADIAN RULING:

No foul. Hurdling is not addressed.

Welpe Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:36pm

I agree, text book hurdle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLin NC (Post 548766)

says KNEES (plural) so is one knee ok but two not? Inquiring minds want to know.

The key to that sentence is "one or both", it applies to both the knees and the feet. So one foot or one knee is enough.

MJT Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:06am

I agree, this was a hurdle.

We had twice in our playoff game Monday night when he hurdled a player, but the player was going down to tackle him and ended up on the ground by the time the hurdle was done. In that case, I didn't think we had a hurdle call, but I am interesting in what you guys think.

IMO, the difference in the play in the video and the ones we've seen this year are that the defender was going to the ground to make the tackle (diving at the runner) when he was hurdled on the ones we've seen, but in this video the defender stayed on his feet throughout the play until well after the hurdle occured. What do you guys think about how I think they are different?????

w_sohl Thu Nov 06, 2008 01:32am

Hurdle...
 
we had one last Friday as well. Man Halloween must have been a wierd night for football...

Da Official Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:20am

FYI

NCAA: The runner is allowed to hurdle...

Warrenkicker Mon Nov 10, 2008 02:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLin NC (Post 548766)
That right knee is leading. However the definition says KNEES (plural) so is one knee ok but two not? Inquiring minds want to know.

Just as feet is plural of foot, knees is plural of knee. One knee meets the requirement. "One or both knees" is gramatically correct while "one or both knee" would not be correct.

FeetBallRef Tue Nov 11, 2008 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickenOfNC (Post 548695)
Wanted to get some of your opinions about this video. This was our game Friday night. We did not flag this during the game, but after the play we all pretty much felt like it was a textbook hurdle. However, after seeing the video, we are less sure that the runner's foot or knee is foremost over the opponent.

Go to the 3:44 mark in the video:

Carolinas High School Sports | HS GameTime.com

Definitely a Hurdle. A 6'5" tight end that can do that needs to play basketball.

fljet Sat Nov 15, 2008 03:15am

a 6 foot 5 tight end that can hurdle, needs to remain a tight end

Aka Antonio Gates, Tony G, need I mention anymore??


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