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Bresquire Mon Oct 20, 2008 02:43pm

Field Goal-Placement After Failed Attempt
 
Where do you place the ball on a failed field goal from the 35 yard line of scrimmage?

Bresquire

IHSA Rules

Niner Mon Oct 20, 2008 02:47pm

It depends on whether or not the failed attempt goes into the EZ; in that case, it is a touchback---place at the 20. If the failed attempt is fielded in the field of play, it is where ever R returns the kick. You should remind everyone that the whistle belongs to the guys at the goal post to avert a possible inadvertent whistle if it does not go into the EZ.

Bresquire Mon Oct 20, 2008 02:58pm

Thanks, i was pretty sure that was the answer. However if it just a failed field goal and nobody returns it. Does it go back to the line of scrimmage?

Bresquire

Jimmie24 Mon Oct 20, 2008 03:03pm

If it lands in the field of play and no one returns it. The ball is dead at that spot. Just like a punt.

ajmc Mon Oct 20, 2008 03:12pm

Presuming you're thinking about NFHS rules, a field goal attempt is just one type of scrimmage kick play and is governed by all the same rules as a standard punt, with the difference being, if successful it scores points.

As pointed out above, if the ball breaks the goal line plane, but fails to score points, just like any other scrimmage kick it's a touchback, 1st & 10 from the 20YL. If it's fielded, within the field of play, and returned, the succeeding spot will be determined by the return.

If it falls short of the goal line, and is downed there, it will be put in play from that spot. If it rolls, or flies, OOB on either sideline, it's put in play from the inbounds spot.

Fouls during the kick are loose ball fouls, except those meeting the PSK requirements, just like any other scrimmage kick.

Bresquire Mon Oct 20, 2008 03:27pm

Thanks for the clarification, and i was talking NFHS rules.

Bresquire

Ed Hickland Mon Oct 20, 2008 03:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bresquire (Post 544212)
Thanks, i was pretty sure that was the answer. However if it just a failed field goal and nobody returns it. Does it go back to the line of scrimmage?

Bresquire

If it crosses the goal line it is a touchback ball is placed on the 20.

If it lands in the field of play and no one touches it the ball is dead at the spot.

A field goal is the same as a punt, in other words, there are free kicks such as kickoffs and scrimmage kicks which include punts and field goals. A field goal is an attempt to score and that is the basic difference from a punt.

Theisey Mon Oct 20, 2008 04:36pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas (Post 544232)
NCAA and NFL the same?

Not quite.. NCAA goes back to the spot of the snap. NFL goes to the spot of the kick. Of course we are talking about a kick into the EZ here, not one that dies in the field of play.

Welpe Mon Oct 20, 2008 04:38pm

NCAA: If the ball is snapped inside the 20, isn't it a touchback?

Patton Mon Oct 20, 2008 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 544241)
NCAA: If the ball is snapped inside the 20, isn't it a touchback?

Yes, if snapped inside the 20, it goes to the 20. Outside the 20, it goes to the previous spot.

bossman72 Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theisey (Post 544239)
Not quite.. NCAA goes back to the spot of the snap. NFL goes to the spot of the kick. Of course we are talking about a kick into the EZ here, not one that dies in the field of play.

Would one that dies in the field of play be the same as NFHS?

w_sohl Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:09am

Just think of it this way. A FG attempt is a punt with a holder that can score.


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