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OhioReferee Sun Oct 19, 2008 01:17pm

LSU-SC Game
 
Anyone see this from the game last night?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Z-kAmbZCc

bisonlj Sun Oct 19, 2008 04:44pm

Wow! I know I'm only in my first year at the umpire position but even I know to stand up and don't move in that case. I don't understand why he dropped his shoulder like that. That just didn't look good.

ajmc Sun Oct 19, 2008 05:58pm

No it doesn't look "good", but I bet it's a lot better than the view from a stretcher as you're carted off the field after getting run over.

Sonofanump Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:16pm

I do not work umpire above high school JV for a reason.

waltjp Mon Oct 20, 2008 07:06am

Don't know what his intent was but it sure didn't look good. I looked like he had plenty of time to step to this left and turn to allow the runner to pass by.

Forksref Mon Oct 20, 2008 07:34am

Why was he moving to his right?

Pivot! And when in doubt, don't move, they usually adjust to you.

mikesears Mon Oct 20, 2008 07:37am

Anyone hear the announcers questioning the officials about offsetting a 5-yard illegal shift (??) and a 15-yard roughing the passer?

To summarize what they said,

We are going to need to check the rulebook on that one. I don't think that's right. In the NFL, a minor and a major foul don't offset.

refbuz Mon Oct 20, 2008 08:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 544068)
Why was he moving to his right?

Pivot! And when in doubt, don't move, they usually adjust to you.

It looks like he did, then got caught in no man's land when the QB tried to bounce it outside. When the QB bounced he stepped towards the runner in an effort to force the runner to make a move off of him, when he didn't make the move he brought his arm up to deliver a blow as an act of self preservation.

That technique is exactly what I was told I was told as a younger Umpire. If if the runner is coming straight at you, to step towards him and force him to react to your movement. If he doesn't react, brace yourself and prepare to deliver a blow. If he can't make a move to "juke" an umpire out he's got bigger problems.

JugglingReferee Mon Oct 20, 2008 08:51am

Tough one by the U. I hope the Supervisor asks him about the play.

cmathews Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:39am

does anyone know
 
Does anyone know if he got a bud light after that???

OverAndBack Mon Oct 20, 2008 04:29pm

A shot immediately afterwards:

http://www.kenn.com/images/ref_tackle.jpg

OverAndBack Mon Oct 20, 2008 05:43pm

But, seriously, folks:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...e-tackle_N.htm

SEC spokesman Charles Bloom...said the league reviewed the video, and "we believe that in a move to protect himself the umpire raises his arm."

"And moves forward and delivers a blow," he didn't add, but should have.

South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier on his weekly teleconference said, "He is trying to get out of the way. … Sometimes that will happen."

That's an odd way to get out of the way...by going into the way.

(Another video)

LDUB Mon Oct 20, 2008 07:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverAndBack (Post 544263)
But, seriously, folks:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...e-tackle_N.htm

SEC spokesman Charles Bloom...said the league reviewed the video, and "we believe that in a move to protect himself the umpire raises his arm."

"And moves forward and delivers a blow," he didn't add, but should have.


What is your point? Is delivering a blow not the correct thing to do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverAndBack (Post 544263)
South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier on his weekly teleconference said, "He is trying to get out of the way. … Sometimes that will happen."

That's an odd way to get out of the way...by going into the way.

Well the official doesn't know where the way will be ahead of time.

BktBallRef Mon Oct 20, 2008 08:07pm

Those of you who don't have the 'nads to assume the position need to http://www.savingadvice.com/forums/i...angry/stfu.gif.


:D

waltjp Mon Oct 20, 2008 09:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by refbuz (Post 544082)
It looks like he did, then got caught in no man's land when the QB tried to bounce it outside. When the QB bounced he stepped towards the runner in an effort to force the runner to make a move off of him, when he didn't make the move he brought his arm up to deliver a blow as an act of self preservation.

That technique is exactly what I was told I was told as a younger Umpire. If if the runner is coming straight at you, to step towards him and force him to react to your movement. If he doesn't react, brace yourself and prepare to deliver a blow. If he can't make a move to "juke" an umpire out he's got bigger problems.

As I was told, if a running back is coming at you - stand still. The back will make a move and go around you.

If a QB is coming at you - get ready. He's going to hit you.


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