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Ed Hickland Thu Oct 16, 2008 07:07pm

Pass Interference?
 
A81 on the line of scrimmage and is covered by A82. A81 and A82 both go downfield. Pass is thrown toward A81. B36 commits pass interference.

A81 is guilty of ineligible downfield. B36 guilty of pass interference.

Do penalties offset?

gtwbam Thu Oct 16, 2008 07:55pm

If your stating B36 committed pass interference against A81 then pass interference will not apply. The reason's because defensive pass interference restrictions apply only to eligible receivers.

waltjp Thu Oct 16, 2008 08:29pm

Not DPI.

Also, if ineligible A81 was the first to touch the pass you have Illegal Touching, 5 yards and loss of down.

Texas Aggie Thu Oct 16, 2008 08:41pm

NCAA: offset. No requirement that I know of for the Team A player being an eligible receiver. However, I'm going to have a very hard time flagging someone for DPI on a 50-79 player if they are the intended receiver (for whatever stupid reason). Do you NCAA guys have any problems with that?

wwcfoa43 Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:20pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Canadian Ruling

Not DPI. PI can only occur against an eligible receiver.

If A81 touches the ball in an attempt to catch it then he is guilty of two fouls: illegally downfield and ineligible receiver touching. However, they both are 10 yard fouls applied at point of last scrimmage of which the defense has to choose one so the fact he is guilty of two does not matter.

JasonTX Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 543632)
NCAA: offset. No requirement that I know of for the Team A player being an eligible receiver. However, I'm going to have a very hard time flagging someone for DPI on a 50-79 player if they are the intended receiver (for whatever stupid reason). Do you NCAA guys have any problems with that?

Pass interference rules only apply to eligible receivers. No foul in NCAA for DPI.

w_sohl Sat Oct 18, 2008 02:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 543630)
Not DPI.

Also, if ineligible A81 was the first to touch the pass you have Illegal Touching, 5 yards and loss of down.

If he caught it we have OPI. We had this recently on a swinging gate. WR covered the snapper...

daggo66 Sat Oct 18, 2008 09:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 543841)
If he caught it we have OPI. We had this recently on a swinging gate. WR covered the snapper...


No, in NFHS that is still ilegal touching. It no longer matters if it was caught or not.

w_sohl Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:20pm

I thought that was the case...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 543855)
No, in NFHS that is still ilegal touching. It no longer matters if it was caught or not.

but wasn't 100% so I went with my WH on that one. I'll be sure to let him know...

Theisey Sun Oct 19, 2008 03:48pm

7-5-10-a is your rule reference Ed.

jjrye22 Tue Oct 21, 2008 07:03am

Texas Aggie:

NCAA
7-3-8-c
Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a Team B
player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent

It would not be offsetting. The DPI should be picked up.

BuckeyeRef Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 543630)
Not DPI.

Also, if ineligible A81 was the first to touch the pass you have Illegal Touching, 5 yards and loss of down.

What if A81 was not the first person to touch the pass and was not the victim of the DPI? What if A83 was the intended receiver and he was interefered with, but A81 was the ineligible receiver downfield? What have we got then?

w_sohl Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef (Post 544691)
What if A81 was not the first person to touch the pass and was not the victim of the DPI? What if A83 was the intended receiver and he was interefered with, but A81 was the ineligible receiver downfield? What have we got then?

Let's see if I can get this. We could have defensive holding and an ineligible downfield, penalties offset, replay the down.

wwcfoa43 Wed Oct 22, 2008 07:35am

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef (Post 544691)
What if A81 was not the first person to touch the pass and was not the victim of the DPI? What if A83 was the intended receiver and he was interefered with, but A81 was the ineligible receiver downfield? What have we got then?

Canadian ruling:

We have DPI and illegal man downfield.

Case 1: If the DPI occurs 15 or more yards from the LOS then we have a 15 yard foul balanced by a 10 yard foul. The difference is 5 yards in favour of the offense. The automatic first down does not apply in a dual so we would repeat the down unless the distance is gained by the 5 yards.

Case 2: If the DPI occurs less than 15 yards downfield then it is treated as a 10 yard foul in a dual. These two 10 yard fouls net to 0 so we replay the down as Point of Last Scrimmage.

waltjp Wed Oct 22, 2008 09:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland (Post 543616)
A81 on the line of scrimmage and is covered by A82. A81 and A82 both go downfield. Pass is thrown toward A81. B36 commits pass interference.

A81 is guilty of ineligible downfield. B36 guilty of pass interference.

Do penalties offset?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef (Post 544691)
What if A81 was not the first person to touch the pass and was not the victim of the DPI? What if A83 was the intended receiver and he was interfered with, but A81 was the ineligible receiver downfield? What have we got then?

A81 is an ineligible down field. DPI against A83 does not change erase that foul. This is a double foul - replay the down. (10-2-1)


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