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BoBo Wed Oct 08, 2008 08:32pm

NCAA question on new clock rules, on the ready or snap???
 
OK here is the situation

1st and 10 on Team A's 20- Team A runs out of bounds at the 24 with 2:10 left in the 2nd quarter.

Ball back in and set by umpire.

Clock is now running again.

2nd and 6 on Team A's 24- A55 false start. with 1:54 on the clock.

Now with the two minute rules in effect will the clock begin with the snap or do we wind??

The previoius play was out of bounds BUT was before the 2 minute time change.

The foul was a dead ball foul as well. BUT did occur with under 2 minutes on the game clock.

What are the key factors to be thinking about in a situation like this??




so short version- Runner goes out of bounds with 2:10 left.

Ball is spotted and the white hat winds the game clock.

Now we have a dead ball foul with 1:54 left on the clock.

Since the prior play was out of bounds do we now recognize that and start the game clock on the snap since we are now under 2 minutes??

TXMike Wed Oct 08, 2008 08:57pm

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Originally Posted by BoBo (Post 542071)
so short version- Runner goes out of bounds with 2:10 left.

Ball is spotted and the white hat winds the game clock.

Now we have a dead ball foul with 1:54 left on the clock.

Since the prior play was out of bounds do we now recognize that and start the game clock on the snap since we are now under 2 minutes??

The clock would start on the RFP. However, if the R deems that A false started deliberately in an attempt to consume time, he could have clock start on the snap. The score of the game, and time remaining, would be main factors in making that decision. In your play, A had managed to get 16 seconds off the game clock and by starting on the snap, they could get 25 more run off. That might not be fair to B. But if A was behnd, they gain nothing by consuming more time so starting on the RFP would be appropriate.

ODJ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:52pm

I'm curious to see if the use of the :40 clock inside 2:00 (even 4:00) is altered for next year. That's a long time to sit on the ball at the end. Go w/:25 under 4 mins. coupled with starting the clock after ball is set following an incomplete pass.

Robert Goodman Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:37pm

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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 542111)
I'm curious to see if the use of the :40 clock inside 2:00 (even 4:00) is altered for next year. That's a long time to sit on the ball at the end. Go w/:25 under 4 mins. coupled with starting the clock after ball is set following an incomplete pass.

That's NFL thinking, where they'll cook up different rules for the final 2 minutes of one half and the final 5 of the next half. I think every minute of the game should be treated like every other minute. They all count the same. There's about as much justification for having the values of the scores be different at different times.

Robert


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