Face Mask question NFL SD vs DEN

[fljet]

the crown would be the highest vertical point so the backside of the crown is essentially the back of the helmet which you can not grab, unless you have Shaquille oNeal size hands, so I think this was a bad call as basically Cromartie's hand landed there on the way down to the ground.

Hey juggles can you explain that in Canadian?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by fljet

the crown would be the highest vertical point so the backside of the crown is essentially the back of the helmet which you can not grab, unless you have Shaquille oNeal size hands, so I think this was a bad call as basically Cromartie's hand landed there on the way down to the ground.

Hey juggles can you explain that in Canadian?

You're not educated enough to read Canadian.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

You're not educated enough to read Canadian.

Touché!

And: ouch!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fljet

the crown would be the highest vertical point so the backside of the crown is essentially the back of the helmet which you can not grab, unless you have Shaquille oNeal size hands, so I think this was a bad call as basically Cromartie's hand landed there on the way down to the ground.

Let me get this straight. You're saying it's impossible for a player to stick his hand in this spot of the helmet and force the head into an unnatural motion?

I've got two words for you: Friction.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're saying it's impossible for a player to stick his hand in this spot of the helmet and force the head into an unnatural motion?

I've got two words for you: Friction.

Two more words for you: summer camp.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

Two more words for you: summer camp.

I'm not arguing the rule on this, I don't know it. When it comes to football, I'm just a fan.

I'm only challenging fljet's assertion that "you can not grab" that portion of the helmet.

[OverAndBack]

It was a joke, never mind.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

It was a joke, never mind.

Dangit! I hate it when jokes go over my head. Happens way too often.

[PA-28-181]

RULE 9 / Section 1
Conduct of Players
and Others
Subject to the Rules

q. No player shall twist, turn or pull the face mask or any helmet opening
of an opponent. It is not a foul if the face mask or helmet opening is
not twisted, turned or pulled. When in question, it is a foul (A.R. 9-1-2-
XV)

PENALTY (a-q)—15 yards from the basic spot, or 15 yards from
the succeeding spot for dead-ball fouls. Automatic first
down for Team B fouls if the first down is not in conflict
with other rules (Exception: Penalties for offensive team
personal fouls behind the neutral zone are enforced from
the previous spot. Safety if the foul occurs behind Team A’s
goal line) [S7, S24, S34, S38, S39, S40, S41 or S46]. Flagrant
offenders shall be disqualified [S47].
For Team A fouls during free or scrimmage kick plays (field
goal plays exempted): Enforcement may be at the previous
spot or the spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to
Team B (Rules 6-1-8 and 6-3-13).

Originally Posted by fljet

the crown would be the highest vertical point so the backside of the crown is essentially the back of the helmet which you can not grab, unless you have Shaquille oNeal size hands, so I think this was a bad call as basically Cromartie's hand landed there on the way down to the ground.

Hey juggles can you explain that in Canadian?

[fljet]

Thanks PA that answered the question no foul occurred based on your rule book excerpt