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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 11:11am
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I'm quite certain that nobody feels worse than Mr. Hochuli.
His whistle has helped me get past the IW I had on a fumble that has haunted me from two years ago. It can happen even to the best.

Someone needs to ask Turner how many poor play calls Mr. Hochuli made during the game, or how many tackles he missed, or blocks he missed, or passes he failed to complete. Blaming the loss on him is ridiculous.
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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 11:18am
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Any comment on Hochuli's position? Iirc the QB rolled to his right and Hochuli was behind the play looking through the QB instead of on the side of the QB's throwing arm. I thought he was completely screened when the ball came loose. He could see the arm motion but not the ball.

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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 06:08pm
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Any comment on Hochuli's position? Iirc the QB rolled to his right and Hochuli was behind the play looking through the QB instead of on the side of the QB's throwing arm. I thought he was completely screened when the ball came loose. He could see the arm motion but not the ball.

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I guess, technically, it could be called an IW but Ed clearly was signalling incomplete. I agree that he had a bad angle on the play. I don't remember exactly how it developed, but Ed was in a bad position to see what happened with the ball.
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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 12:05pm
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His whistle has helped me get past the IW I had on a fumble that has haunted me from two years ago. It can happen even to the best.
While I agree that this a great lesson for us all, my advice would be that two years is too long to be haunted by a mistake. Remember it, sure (I don't know that I've me the official who doesn't recall his or her IWs - I have two), but there's a statute of limitations on beating yourself up. At some point, you have to say, "You know what? I'm human. That was a bad one, but I'm not going to let that happen again if I can help it at all."

Now, granted, none of us has made a call in front of 75,000 people and a big TV audience that can be looked at as a deciding factor in a game at the highest level and on which coaches' livelihoods may ride. But the concept is the same. You do your best, you own up to it when you kick one. And if you kick too many of them, maybe this isn't for you.

But one moment doesn't define a career (or shouldn't).

I await Mike Pereira's appearance on NFL Network this week. When is that, usually, Wednesday?
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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 12:57pm
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But one moment doesn't define a career (or shouldn't).

I await Mike Pereira's appearance on NFL Network this week. When is that, usually, Wednesday?
It won't define his career. Rather, 85's career will be defined as one of the best officials ever.

Just follow this thread all season long:

'08 NFLN:TA/Official Review Summaries - Through Week 1
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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 01:34pm
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While they certainly got hosed on the missed call, the refs didn't give Denver two scoring passes to the same receiver on consecutive plays. While SD certainly missed out on a recovered fumble, it wasn't a fumble they caused, so they weren't penalized for a great play.

Denver still had to put the ball into the EZ twice.
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Old Mon Sep 15, 2008, 02:11pm
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If you're like me, aren't you thinking, "Man I'm glad hawkishowl20 doesn't coach the Chargers." ?
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If you're like me, aren't you thinking, "Man I'm glad hawkishowl20 doesn't coach the Chargers." ?
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If you're like me, aren't you thinking, "Man I'm glad hawkishowl20 doesn't coach the Chargers." ?

lol.


Impressions and prejudice can cause you to say things that don’t make any sense. It’s still great satire.
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