Horse Collar

ljdave · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 14, 2008, 09:59am

NCAA. Did anyone see the horse collar call in the Michigan vs. Notre Dame game? Did that qualify? He didn't pull the runner down; just sort of a grab and release. Thanks.......

brettdj · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 14, 2008, 01:49pm

Did not see it.

But as described that would not apply. Must be grab and immediately pull down.

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 14, 2008, 01:52pm

He did go down, but not immediately. I had my questions about the call too. Then again there is where some judgment comes into play.

Peace

Scooby · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 14, 2008, 11:04pm

I watched the game and am a Michigan fan. I thought it was a horse collar. The tackler took down the ball carrier by the back of the jersey.

johnnyg08 · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 07:44am

my understanding is "back of the jersey" is not the definition of horse collar.

on another note, is there a Fed rule for horsecollar?

BoBo · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 07:53am

No FED rule but sure it will be coming someday

Scooby · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 07:56am

No horse Collar in NFHS.

JasonTX · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 08:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

my understanding is "back of the jersey" is not the definition of horse collar.

on another note, is there a Fed rule for horsecollar?

For NCAA:

All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the
shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder
pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the runner down. This does not
apply to a runner who is inside the tackle box or to a quarterback who is
in the pocket.

Robert Goodman · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 12:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljdave

NCAA. Did anyone see the horse collar call in the Michigan vs. Notre Dame game? Did that qualify? He didn't pull the runner down; just sort of a grab and release. Thanks.......

I saw it. The runner was pulled down as he went out of bounds, but it wasn't clear to me whether that counts as immediate.

Theisey · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 15, 2008, 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I saw it. The runner was pulled down as he went out of bounds, but it wasn't clear to me whether that counts as immediate.

I agree as well, it did not look to be what I would consider immediate. That being said, its a learning period for officials. I wonder how widespread this problem foul was for the NCAA to have been requested to implement it.

I'd be willing to bet the 5 yard FM foul will be return in a couple seasons.

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