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JugglingReferee Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I've reffed some basketball games where a ball could never reach 25 feet into the air. I'm not sure the court I played on as a kid didn't have rafters sitting below that mark.

Come to think of it, the small gymnasium attached to St. Mary's church in my hometown had a low ceiling.

Camron Rust Wed Sep 10, 2008 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
For accuracy's sake, science tells us that the ball went about 25 feet into the air.

In other words, it wouldn't have hit the ceiling in an indoor basketball gymnasium. :D

No it doesn't.


I'm the one who posted the physics info. My range of heights was based on a estimate of the time in the air:
2 seconds -> 16 feet
3 seconds -> 36 feet
4 seconds -> 64 feet

If someone wants to pull out a stopwatch, we could tell for sure but most esitmates put it between 3 and 4 seconds. So, I'd feel pretty comfortable saying that science puts it closer to 40 feet.

JugglingReferee Wed Sep 10, 2008 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
No it doesn't.


I'm the one who posted the physics info. My range of heights was based on a estimate of the time in the air:
2 seconds -> 16 feet
3 seconds -> 36 feet
4 seconds -> 64 feet

If someone wants to pull out a stopwatch, we could tell for sure but most esitmates put it between 3 and 4 seconds. So, I'd feel pretty comfortable saying that science puts it closer to 40 feet.

I read somewhere that is was 2.36 seconds. (Or thereabouts - I don't recall the exact digits after the decimal point. Even if it was 2.5s, it is 25 feet.)

From what I recall, that figure was posted by someone who has a history of quality posts, so I accepted their determination of ~ 2.5s.

What does your stopwatch say about the length of time that the ball was in the air?

JugglingReferee Wed Sep 10, 2008 01:50pm

I found the video and timed it myself. It sure looks like 2.5s is an accurate duration for the ball being airborne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbgOF71ORiw shows how 2.36s is the airborne duration of the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igjgUKP3Uhc

TXMike Wed Sep 10, 2008 02:48pm

Is that a full speed video or a slowed down version? I never could find a full speed version trhat showed the whole toss

JRutledge Wed Sep 10, 2008 03:01pm

It looks full speed to me (other than when they clearly slow down the play).

Peace

OverAndBack Wed Sep 10, 2008 03:03pm

Next up: an analysis of the Zapruder Film.

Camron Rust Wed Sep 10, 2008 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
I found the video and timed it myself. It sure looks like 2.5s is an accurate duration for the ball being airborne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbgOF71ORiw shows how 2.36s is the airborne duration of the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igjgUKP3Uhc

Very well. 25 feet it is.

trocared Thu Sep 11, 2008 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by TXMike
Do you know who actually flagged?


if you get a good look at the entire play, one could surmise that the official on the grassy knoll was actually the one who threw the hankie.
cheers,
tro


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