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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I think that in the future, R 85 Hochuli will replace Pereira.

He will not replace him. He will lift up the building in New York in which Pereira works and shake it until he falls out.

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I do not think he is joking, and I agree that R 94 Carey has among the best signals in the NFL.

Right now, I think there are *many* strong Referees in the NFL. To be selected among them is quite an accomplishment. I think that in the future, R 85 Hochuli will replace Pereira.

I also think that R ?? Steratore will be among the top NFL Referees ever. Parry and Boger are showing that they'll have fantastic careers as well. With R 77 McAulay and R 42 Triplette and R 99 Corrente, imho, the officiating in the NFL will be superb in the years to come.

A lot of what goes into being a good R is the communication factor when using the mic. Good clear voice that's easy to understand. IMO Steratore is one of the best on the mic. Carey tends to leave you in suspense, sort of a delay in giving the direction of the fouling team. Something like, "Holding, #25 (delay) Defense..." No complaints about that as it adds a bit of mystery to which way he's going to signal.

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Originally Posted by jimpiano

Mike Carey will become the first Black to referee a Super Bowl.

Congrats to Mike Carey!!!

For some reason I always thought Johnny Grier worked a Super Bowl.

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Originally Posted by biz

Congrats to Mike Carey!!!

For some reason I always thought Johnny Grier worked a Super Bowl.

I believe he did work the Super Bowl, but it was not as the Referee.

Peace

You're right JRut. I looked it up. He was the field judge in Super Bowl XXII.

He's a great ref, and it's a great accomplishment.

Is it really bad to observe that, for complicated reasons, we still unfortunately live in a world where young african americans need more positive role models? Color blindness is the goal, but we're not there yet. This gets us closer. Seeing a black man rise to the absolute peak of his extremely competitive profession is a good thing worth celebrating.

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Originally Posted by rulesmaven

He's a great ref, and it's a great accomplishment.

Is it really bad to observe that, for complicated reasons, we still unfortunately live in a world where young african americans need more positive role models? Color blindness is the goal, but we're not there yet. This gets us closer. Seeing a black man rise to the absolute peak of his extremely competitive profession is a good thing worth celebrating.

I'd really like to know which he is. African? Or American? Has he ever been to Africa even? Anyone know?

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I'd really like to know which he is. African? Or American? Has he ever been to Africa even? Anyone know?

If you do not know, then you need to go back to history class.

Peace

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I'd really like to know which he is. African? Or American? Has he ever been to Africa even? Anyone know?

Great question. A friend of mine hates to be referred to in this fashion. He says, "I've never be to (or from) Africa, but I've been Black and an American all my life".
Same way with "Native American". I was born and raised in the USA so I guess I could say that I'm a native American.
Imagine how it would look if I listed all the countries that my ancestors had come from. Oh how ridiculous!
I guess some folks just need to feel special and therefore they have to add something. What is wrong with all citizens of the United States of America just being Americans?! I am and proud of it!

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you do not know, then you need to go back to history class.

Peace

Must be a relatively new term. I guess I'm too old because when I was in school, the term was not existent.

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Originally Posted by jaybird

Must be a relatively new term. I guess I'm too old because when I was in school, the term was not existent.

You do not have to learn the term from school, but if you know the history, then you would not be asking such a question. ;)

Peace

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Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

Is it really a big deal? I mean imho everything from NY's week 17 nearmiracle against NE to NE "miraculous" season to spygate, to which team the alternate referree's cat picks will be scrutinized in the media over the next 2 weeks, as I'm sure if and when this becomes public media knowledge it probably will as well. But should it? I mean aren't the official's invisible, and shouldn't they be? Shouldn't the "color" of their shirt say something about their "color." I had the privilege of meeting Mike Carey in the locker room at the RCA DOme in Indy a few years ago, great guy, I honestly think if (and when) people make a big deal out of this it will be a sad day. Its about the New York Giants trying to slay Goliath (puns abounding). Its about Eli Manning following in his brother's footsteps, its about Tom Brady being on the cover of SI, it is not about the officials and definately not their color.

My rant, endeth here.

I read what you posted and this came to mind:
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"One of the really wrong theories about officiating is that a good official is one you never notice. The umpire who made that statement was probably a real poor official who tried to get his paycheck and hide behind his partners and stay out of trouble all his life. Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers." -

Umpire Bruce Froemming
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It's a great achievement for them, earning the chance to work the SuperBowl. More people have played in the SuperBowl than have officiated it.

Those that want to show up, work the game, and slither out without being noticed at all -- I have no interest in working with them.

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Who? If you are referring to Carey, you are obviously joking.

Correct me if I am wrong, but when Carey points to the team on which there is a foul, it looks like a big karate chop.

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you do not know, then you need to go back to history class.

Peace

How would he have learned in history class whether or not Mike Carey had ever visited Africa? I don't follow.