Gaylord Bowl

[LeRoy]

With about 2:00 min in the half Kentucky throws a pick and the Florida State player made a tuck and roll leap into the EZ with NO ONE around him. I was glad that he was flagged for this. Also then another player threw the referee's flag -- (NFL Ravens a couple of weeks ago) That player was flagged also, We must STOP all this stuff early in the 2008 season.

[secondregionbug]

Who and where was this crew from?

[DonInKansas]

Heh...Can't believe Florida State's JV squad made a game of it.

[ljudge]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

Who and where was this crew from?

A Big East crew worked the game and did an excellent job. I mentioned on another forum how they nailed this call. The player was clearly unopposed when he made the flip which is spelled out in the rule book.

And on another call the talking heads didn't like McGinn's intentional grounding call either at the 11:07 mark in the 2nd quarter. Another excellent call in the game. The QB scrambled quite a bit on this play but he never got outside of the guard, let alone the tackle. And, they argued there was a receiver "in the area." What they didn't understand was the player had absolutely, positively no reasonable opportunity to catch the pass which is also part of the criteria for calling grounding.

Two very nice calls in this game (in addition to the many others).

[secondregionbug]

The crew did a good job except they talked to Bobby B way tooooo much. The Fla team did not miss much with the players that were on the grass they played a hell of a game and this should give them a good start for next year once they get rid of all the cheaters.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

The crew did a good job except they talked to Bobby B way tooooo much. The Fla team did not miss much with the players that were on the grass they played a hell of a game and this should give them a good start for next year once they get rid of all the cheaters.

I do not quite agree with that. The ball was dead after a score, I do not see any problem with the officials explaining why this was called.

Also it appeared the Bobby B's claim was that this has not been called very much. Well for one you have a different set of officials calling the game then he likely saw most of the year (unless they played a Big East School at some point during the year). And I have seen this called many times when appropriate and sometimes when it is not appropriate. And there is nothing wrong with diving into the end zone when someone is chasing you or when you are trying to clearly avoid a tackle. Talking to Bobby B at that time made sense if he was claiming this had not been called before. We just saw a day later this was called.

Peace

[MJT]

Dive with someone around you to get in the EZ, fine. Dive with no one within 5 yards or so, flag. Flip anytime, unless to jump over a pile or someone, USC everytime.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

With about 2:00 min in the half Kentucky throws a pick and the Florida State player made a tuck and roll leap into the EZ with NO ONE around him. I was glad that he was flagged for this. Also then another player threw the referee's flag -- (NFL Ravens a couple of weeks ago) That player was flagged also, We must STOP all this stuff early in the 2008 season.

What exactly is wrong with diving into the end zone or, even, doing a back flip? I can see flagging taunting, excessive celebration, and making a spectacle of yourself after the play......but diving into the end zone?

[DonInKansas]

I remember seeing Hawaii getting flagged for doing the same thing vs. Boise State. Idiocy.

It'll stop once the first guy lands on his head and gets a concussion.

[HLin NC]

The one that blows my mind is where the replay booth reversed the call on the field and gave FSU a TD to make the score 35-27. The announcers were adamant that this should in NO WAY be reversed.

I'm looking at the first replay going, "foot down, possession, why in the #e!! isn't this a TD?" All the announcer could prattle on about was how it was tipped by a UK player, like THAT had anything to do with the call.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

The one that blows my mind is where the replay booth reversed the call on the field and gave FSU a TD to make the score 35-27. The announcers were adamant that this should in NO WAY be reversed.

I'm looking at the first replay going, "foot down, possession, why in the #e!! isn't this a TD?" All the announcer could prattle on about was how it was tipped by a UK player, like THAT had anything to do with the call.

Yup. This is cause for watching some games with the sound muted!

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

What exactly is wrong with diving into the end zone or, even, doing a back flip? I can see flagging taunting, excessive celebration, and making a spectacle of yourself after the play......but diving into the end zone?

You are so fond of quoting the rulebook there Grasshopper, take a look at 9-2-1-a-1-e and see if your question is not answered for you.

[sj]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

excessive celebration, and making a spectacle of yourself after the play.....

***Are you saying this to mean there should be different treatment when a player is making a spectacle of himself before the play is over versus waiting to make a spectacle of himself until after the play is over?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by sj

***Are you saying this to mean there should be different treatment when a player is making a spectacle of himself before the play is over versus waiting to make a spectacle of himself until after the play is over?

I think it should be treated differently -- that certain kinds of spectacle once the ball is dead are USC to me if done while the ball is still live. For instance, holding the ball up & waving it before scoring is much more of a tease than is holding it up & waving after scoring.

Robert

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

For instance, holding the ball up & waving it before scoring is much more of a tease than is holding it up & waving after scoring.

Robert

So "nyah nyah, I'm gonna score on you" is that much worse than "nyah nyah I scored on you?" Interesting.

If they want it out so bad, just make it a rule they have to go straight to the nearest ref and hand the ball to him with no celebration at all.