Kick situation

[ChickenOfNC]

Here's the play: (FED rules please)

A) Scrimmage kick. R1 muffs the kick at his 40 yard line. Ball rolls toward his end zone. R1 then kicks the ball from the 25 yard line through his end zone. What you got?

B) Same scenerio except it's during a free kick.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by ChickenOfNC

Here's the play: (FED rules please)

A) Scrimmage kick. R1 muffs the kick at his 40 yard line. Ball rolls toward his end zone. R1 then kicks the ball from the 25 yard line through his end zone. What you got?

B) Same scenerio except it's during a free kick.

Scrimmage kick -

PSK - The basic spot is where the kick ends. Because the kick resulted in a touch back the basic spot is the 20 yard line. 1/2 the distance, 1st and 10 for R at their 10 yard line.

Free kick -

Loose ball play, previous spot enforcement. K may rekick from R's 45.

Touchback in both cases if the penalty is declined.

[INDYREF]

Since R1 kicked the ball at the 25 yard line, would not the kick of the R1 be the force that caused the ball to enter his end zone. This would then cause a safety instead of a touchback. The issue seems to be the force that caused the ball to enter the endzone. Since the ball was at the 25 and had been muffed, is this not a new force. Comments please!!

[ChickenOfNC]

Force is not a factor on kicks going into R's end zone.

[Bob M.]

REPLY: waltjp is correct on both kicks: Result of the play is a TB in each scenario. K will undoubtedly accept the penalty on the scrimmage kick play. On the free kick, he might. Or if his kicker doesn't boom it that far, or if R has a Dante Hall type return guy, he might decline it and just give R the ball at the 20.

[wisref2]

A kick ends when someone gains possession.

Force is not a factor on kicks going into R's end zone. In other words, no matter what happens, the kick is ALWAYS the force.

A kick is a kick is a kick until it is no longer a kick.