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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 10:46am
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Then try this one (NCAA): A1 throws a legal forward pass which is simultaneously caught by eligible A2 and B1, but A2 is off the ground while B2 has some body part on the ground and in bounds. Then B2 steps or slides out of bounds, and then A1 comes down in bounds, each still with hands on the ball. Team possession?

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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 03:19pm
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B's ball.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 08:47pm
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Then try this one (NCAA): A1 throws a legal forward pass which is simultaneously caught by eligible A2 and B1, but A2 is off the ground while B2 has some body part on the ground and in bounds. Then B2 steps or slides out of bounds, and then A1 comes down in bounds, each still with hands on the ball. Team possession?

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This play would not be ruled a simultaneuous catch since A2 has not caught the ball. In order to rule simulaneous and team A to retain the ball, both player must have possession and both be on the ground at the exact time. B2 is the first play to complete the requirements of a catch first. Once B2 steps out of bounds the ball becomes dead. B's ball.

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Old Fri Nov 09, 2007, 08:14am
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Attended the LSU v Bama game

I attended 2 games this weekend, VT at GT and LSU at Bama

My only observation from the GT game was that the F was lazy, showed no energy - out hustled by the U! Got beat to the goal on a play and never creeped in to do some off the ball officiating after a play became dead outside his zone.

I also went to the LSU v Alabama game. For those of you who can find a weekend free, I strongly encourage you to go to Tuscaloosa to see a game - awesome. Been to Mich, ND, PSU, Ill, among others but nothing compared to the Bama atmosphere

As mentioned above, there were many stoppages in the game an it did slow the game down, but that's alright, it's more important to get it right (as Philly D, a fellow official once told me: Look good and get it right, and if you can't look good, get it right!)

While I know officials don't normally care what coaches do, so feel free to ignore my commentary, but it was obviously a case of over coaching. He was on the wrong side of the 50 to be pulling trick plays. There was plenty of time on the clock to punt this ball away and play defense. The ensuing run back was the fault of the coach and a knuckleheaded lineman who didn't have the good sense to keep his helmet on.
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Old Fri Nov 09, 2007, 05:39pm
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This play would not be ruled a simultaneuous catch since A2 has not caught the ball. In order to rule simulaneous and team A to retain the ball, both player must have possession and both be on the ground at the exact time. B2 is the first play to complete the requirements of a catch first. Once B2 steps out of bounds the ball becomes dead. B's ball.
So if they both come down in bounds, and then step out, you have to rule on which one touched the ground 1st?

How about if one of them, in addition to having possession of the ball, manages to carry the opponent out of bounds without the latter's having touched in bounds?

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Old Fri Nov 09, 2007, 08:12pm
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So if they both come down in bounds, and then step out, you have to rule on which one touched the ground 1st?

How about if one of them, in addition to having possession of the ball, manages to carry the opponent out of bounds without the latter's having touched in bounds?

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