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Rich Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:29am

It all ends tomorrow...
 
...at least for me and my crew. First round playoff game. Where did the season go?

Samdog Tue Oct 23, 2007 01:51pm

I have 2 wks reg season and at least 2 playoff games left. What state are you in?

Rich Tue Oct 23, 2007 01:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdog
I have 2 wks reg season and at least 2 playoff games left. What state are you in?

Wisconsin. Tonight is it for 82 crews, including mine.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:08pm

Nebraska. Friday night is our last regular season game, since we're heading into Iowa to do one. Others are either done, or doing playoffs on Thursday or Friday.

parepat Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Wisconsin. Tonight is it for 82 crews, including mine.


Why do they play on Tuesdays?

MJT Tue Oct 23, 2007 02:49pm

In Iowa, we have last regular season game on Friday, then playoffs next week.
2007 Playoff Schedule - 11 Player
Wednesday, October 31st (1st Round) - 7:00 PM
Monday, November 5th (Quarterfinals) - [Classes A, 1A, 4A] - 7:00 PM
Tuesday, November 6th (Quarterfinals) - [Classes 2A, 3A] - 7:00 PM
Friday, November 9th (Semi-Finals) - [UNI-Dome]
10:30 AM - Class A
1:30 PM - Class A
4:30 PM - Class 4A
7:30 PM- Class 4A
Saturday, November 10th (Semi-Finals) - [UNI-Dome]
10:30 AM - Class 1A
1:30 PM - Class 1A
Monday, November 12th (Semi-Finals) - [UNI-Dome]
10:30 AM - Class 2A
1:30 PM - Class 2A
4:30 PM - Class 3A
7:30 PM - Class 3A
Friday, November 16th (Finals) - [UNI-Dome]
12:30PM- Class A
3:30 PM - Class 1A
7:30 PM - Class 4A
Saturday, November 17th (Finals) - [UNI-Dome]
9:30 AM - Class 2A
12:30 PM - Class 3A

FredFan7 Tue Oct 23, 2007 03:29pm

Illinois.

5 rounds of playoffs begin this weekend. I have a round and that's it.

This was the fastest--and most enjoyable season--yet!

BoBo Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:06pm

Question for those working playoffs and how your state handles assignments.

When you get your playoff letter/call/assignment; does your state let you know ahead of time how many games or rounds you will work or does it go week by week.

In Iowa we receive our assignments by mail.

Then the waiting game begins.

They call you aand let you know by phone if you have a game for the upcoming round or not.

You may not receive a first round but may work a second round.

Or do a first skip the second then work the third.

Or any number of variations.

I would much rather have them tell you what rounds you will work at the beginning. Why the big secret i have no idea.

MJT what do you think of our system here in iowa

Texas Aggie Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:08pm

We're just on week 8 of 10 (actually, 11, with "0" week). Then, we have up to 6 weeks of playoffs depending on the league/division.

Jr. high games will end next week for most school districts, with some the week after. Obviously, sub varsity games end 2 weeks from Thursday.

Still a fifth of the season left, plus another half of season of playoffs. It'll be over by Christmas!

l3will Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:37pm

Minnesota... Everyone makes the playoffs, 6 classes

first round of sections.... tonight (Tue., Oct. 23)
section semis ... generally Sat.
Section finals .... Generally week from Friday.

8 sections in each class.... officials are assigned by a section coordinator...
assignments for each round in the section are generally known prior to the
season even starting... not specific assignments, but what rounds your crew
will be working. As seeding gets done, specific assignments are given by
the section coordinator. Generally speaking... 2 crews get first round games only,
1 crew gets a first round game and a semi, 1 crew gets all three rounds.

The state assignments for each class are decided early in October by the state
high school league... Here's how I understand that it works....

One first round game in each class is reserved for the crew that will be doing the finals in that class. That leaves three assignments in each class for a first round game.

Semi-final games are given to two of the three crews that worked a first round game the year before.

The final game is given to one of the two crews that worked a semi-final game the year before.

As far as I know every crew is eligible for state after applying except for those crews
that worked a final game the year before... they must sit out one year from state and
then are eligible to work up the ladder.

..... To get your initial first round game, they are use the ratings from the coaches and
an actual evaluation by a state evaluator... ususally a retired official. There is a potential each year for up to 18 new crews to do a first round game. But if they get four new crews that have never done a state tournament game, they consider that to be a very high number.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Oct 23, 2007 04:43pm

Nebraska's playoffs are a bit complicated because of the variations in classifications. Class A (the biggest class) started their regular season on Week 0, where some Classes B-D2 schools started theirs the same week. Everybody else started on week 1. Those teams playing on week 0 got a bye week somewhere along the line. Week 8 is actually the last week of the regular season for everyone except for Class B. Class B's regular season ends on week 9, which is the first week of the state playoffs for everyone else.

The playoffs on week 9 are for Classes C1-D2 (32 qualifiers in each class) on Thursday (Oct. 25), and Class A (16 qualifiers) on Friday (Oct. 26). The following Wednesday (Oct. 31), Class B has it's first round games (16 qualifiers) while C1-D2 has it's 2nd round, and then Friday night (Nov. 2), it's Class A's turn with their quarterfinals. Classes B-D2 have their quarterfinals on the Monday after that (Nov. 5). Class A has their semifinals on Friday, Nov. 9, while the other classes have theirs on Saturday, Nov. 10. The state championship games are played in Lincoln on Thursday, Nov. 15 (8 man classes D1 and D2); Friday, November 16 (Classes C-2 and A-I believe that's right), and Saturday, November 17 (Classes C-1 and B-again, I think that's the order).

I don't know how they do assigning of officials for the playoffs, because my crew had applied for 2 years, and we haven't been fortunate enough to get a contract.

parepat Tue Oct 23, 2007 08:15pm

In Ohio approximately 15% of the teams make the playoffs among the 6 divisions. Thus, about 15% of the varsity (class 1) officials get assignments. Although we work in crews guring the regular season, playoff assignments are done individually. During week 3 or 4 an official may get a letter that tells him that they have met the criteria for eligibility to be selected as a playoff official. From my experience approx 90% of those getting the letter will receive an assignment. During week 8 those selected get a letter letting them know what crew they will be on. Crews range from 1 to 96. Crews 1 thru 6 get five games including a state championship game. Crews 48 thru 96 get one game. ANd so on. On Sunday after week 10 the internet will show which crew will be where, and the referees receive the info on their crews. I will not meet my crew mates until game night.

Matt-MI Tue Oct 23, 2007 09:27pm

MI playoffs start this weekend and run through Thanksgiving weekend. All schools with 6 wins in a 9 game schedule (or 5 in 8) automatically qualify. A point system is then used to fill out the field to 256 teams which are split into 8 divisions of 32. The first three rounds the officials are assigned as crews, semis and finals are individually assigned. I have no idea how anyone is notified as I have never been assigned a game.

tjones1 Tue Oct 23, 2007 09:48pm

Good question. Season sure did go by fast. However, it was a very enjoyable and fun season! Looking forward to next year...but for now, it's time for basketball!! :)

BktBallRef Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by Samdog
I have 2 wks reg season and at least 2 playoff games left. What state are you in?

That's me as well. First basketball scrimmages are also two Satrudays away. Hard to move to bball mode when you're still working football.

Rich Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:03am

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Originally Posted by parepat
Why do they play on Tuesdays?

It allows them to squeeze an extra round in. Round 1 was tonight, Round 2 is Saturday.

We had an 8-0 game tonight, one of the best of the season. All over but the shouting. First hoops game is November 27.

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Oct 24, 2007 07:36am

Correction: Class A has their semifinals on Nov. 10th (Saturday) just as the other classes in Nebraska. I guess I was so riled they have special treatment and have their first 2 rounds on Fridays, giving them more time to prepare than the other classes do.


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