The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Football
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 03, 2001, 11:23am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6
Apologies to any offended parties ....

For many watching the Saints-Panthers game yesterday, it became too much to believe.

I recognize officiating to be a difficult job, but how about consistency within one game.

1. Pass interference - call it tight, or call it loose, but pick a method and stick with it for a few hours ... reasonable people will recognize the valiant effort in that ...
2. Get out of the way ... if you didn't pull the flag on the defender 15 yards back, you might consider throwing one on yourself ... unbelievable.... Maybe 50, 60 yards from the line of scrimmage, and you defend Joe Horn. Put away the ref gear, and try out for the Panthers.

Seriously, officials should be held accoluntable. Be consistent, and pay attention to the game.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 04, 2001, 05:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6
I don't believe it's a "rant" to state that officials should be consistent and aware. Whether the Panthers or Saints win is of no import here; but players and coaches should primarily determine the outcome of a game through their respective efforts.

Posting my thoughts to a "fan" site would serve little. As I previously stated, a reasonable person will have much less to complain about if, for example, pass interference [both offensive + defensive], is judged on a consistent basis throughout a given game. Determine your standards [within the confines of the rules] and apply them evenly.

Funny thing about officiating [and p.s., I've done a fair bit of it myself]: many "judges" can't handle being judged.

I don't believe it off-topic to remind officials to be consistent and aware.

Sorry if you took offense.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 05, 2001, 12:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 16
I guess if Joe Horn had hit the goal post you'd be complaining about the inconsistencies of field equipment!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 05, 2001, 08:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6
Truly informative stuff !

As for your assumptions, you're entitled ...
Wrong, but entitled ...

Funny how pride prevents people from admitting error, and forces some to defend ridiculous action ... or causes them to cast aspersions on those who might question an official's actions.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 05, 2001, 09:29pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Can anyone tell me about Phil Luckett's change from referee to back judge?

I liked him as a referee.

..Mike
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 11:40am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 223
I guess a post is missing here because there is a reply to nothing.

To OBMUG:
If you really have done any officiating, your attitude does not reflect it. The saying is that we must start out perfect and get better. The reality is that we are all human beings and do make errors in judgement. You may think that the DPI calls were inconsistant, but thats with your view on TV with many replays, and possibly a bias as to a favored outcome. I don't think any official especially professionals, strive to be anything other than consistant.

To Jugglingref,
Referee mag ran an article on Luckett a few months back as to why he switched.
__________________
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 11:57am
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,558
Quote:
Originally posted by STEVED21
I guess a post is missing here because there is a reply to nothing.

To OBMUG:
If you really have done any officiating, your attitude does not reflect it. The saying is that we must start out perfect and get better. The reality is that we are all human beings and do make errors in judgement. You may think that the DPI calls were inconsistant, but thats with your view on TV with many replays, and possibly a bias as to a favored outcome. I don't think any official especially professionals, strive to be anything other than consistant.

To Jugglingref,
Referee mag ran an article on Luckett a few months back as to why he switched.
Unfortunately money was tight for me a few months ago - I had to decide to not renew my membership with NASO. I will again in the new year, but perhaps you can tell me a bit about the article?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 12:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 16
The article referred to came out a couple of months ago. It talks about how Luckett's career has been affected by the incident. I'll try to find it at the house. In the meantime, if you've never read the original article done by Referee Maganzine about the whole incident, you really should read it. It's posted on the mag's website:

http://www.referee.com/SampleArticle...eadstails.html
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 12:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 223
Smile

You guys are fast. I took a phone call and never even got off the page.
__________________
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 10, 2001, 02:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6
Hi Steve,

Thanks for a genuine, reasonable reply. I appreciate it. The reason the thread looks strange now is that a member who shall remain nameless [he may be the moderator, or co-administrator and has posted over 1450 messages to this forum] made a few insulting posts to me, then chose to withdraw his barbs, which he has the power to do here [ kind of like a ref changing the tenor of a game ]. As a result, the thread looks pretty strange, and may responses appear inflammatory.

Yes, I have done a decent amount of officiating [primarily basketball], though I haven't in the past few years. Do I understand inherent difficulties in officiating ? Of course. Do I still expect consistency ? You bet I do. Thanks again for a mature response.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 10, 2001, 02:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally posted by obmug


... As a result, the thread looks pretty strange, and may responses appear inflammatory.

oops, I meant "my" responses .... sorry for the typo ...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1