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WVREF Sun Oct 28, 2001 12:00am

Does this qualify as a "Where's the tee play"? Late in the first half A's head coach screams to his qb to spike the ball to stop the clock. QB fakes the spike and throws a long pass after the defense lets up. At first this seemed to be in the same vein as the Where's the tee play. But after discussing the play with other officials it seems that the defense must still be responsible for playing until the ball becomes dead. Offense did not try to trick them into thinking that the snap was not going to occur. Luckily the play didn't actually occur, the coach just told us about it in the pre-game discussion.

Ed Hickland Sun Oct 28, 2001 12:32pm

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Originally posted by WVREF
Does this qualify as a "Where's the tee play"? Late in the first half A's head coach screams to his qb to spike the ball to stop the clock. QB fakes the spike and throws a long pass after the defense lets up. At first this seemed to be in the same vein as the Where's the tee play. But after discussing the play with other officials it seems that the defense must still be responsible for playing until the ball becomes dead. Offense did not try to trick them into thinking that the snap was not going to occur. Luckily the play didn't actually occur, the coach just told us about it in the pre-game discussion.

bluezebra Sun Oct 28, 2001 01:20pm

This sounds perfectly legal to me.

Bob

BktBallRef Sun Oct 28, 2001 01:33pm

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Originally posted by Ed Hickland
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Originally posted by WVREF
Does this qualify as a "Where's the tee play"? Late in the first half A's head coach screams to his qb to spike the ball to stop the clock. QB fakes the spike and throws a long pass after the defense lets up. At first this seemed to be in the same vein as the Where's the tee play. But after discussing the play with other officials it seems that the defense must still be responsible for playing until the ball becomes dead. Offense did not try to trick them into thinking that the snap was not going to occur. Luckily the play didn't actually occur, the coach just told us about it in the pre-game discussion.

Whatever you think Ed, I agree! :)

Ed Hickland Sun Oct 28, 2001 02:14pm

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Originally posted by WVREF
Does this qualify as a "Where's the tee play"? Late in the first half A's head coach screams to his qb to spike the ball to stop the clock. QB fakes the spike and throws a long pass after the defense lets up. At first this seemed to be in the same vein as the Where's the tee play. But after discussing the play with other officials it seems that the defense must still be responsible for playing until the ball becomes dead. Offense did not try to trick them into thinking that the snap was not going to occur. Luckily the play didn't actually occur, the coach just told us about it in the pre-game discussion.
Let's try this again.

This play does not qualify as an unsportsmanlike act because there is no deception to deceive. The ball would be snapped legally, however, instead of spiking the ball they execute a play.

Of course, some NFL fans may remember Dan Marino did exactly that to the New York Jets a few years ago.

BktBallRef Sun Oct 28, 2001 02:54pm

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Originally posted by Ed Hickland
Let's try this again.

This play does not qualify as an unsportsmanlike act because there is no deception to deceive. The ball would be snapped legally, however, instead of spiking the ball they execute a play.

I still agree with you, Ed. :)

sportswriter Tue Oct 30, 2001 03:11am

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Originally posted by WVREF
A's head coach screams to his qb to spike the ball to stop the clock. QB fakes the spike and throws a long pass after the defense lets up.
Here's my take on things: the coach is becoming part of the play, in essence, therefore it is not a player deception.

I *would* be inclined, I think, to let the play go if it is a PLAYER ON THE FIELD yelling to the QB to spike the ball.


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