Confused about 1-point safeties...

[Mike22Official]

Team A try. Let's just say for some stupid reason, Quarterback A6 runs all the way back to A's goalline, where he falls down.

Is this a 1-point or 2-point safety awarded to Team B?

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by Mike22Official

Team A try. Let's just say for some stupid reason, Quarterback A6 runs all the way back to A's goalline, where he falls down.

Is this a 1-point or 2-point safety awarded to Team B?

REPLY: For Federation, it is neither. B cannot ever, ever score under current Fed rules. All it amounts to is the end of the try.

NCAA rules are different though.

[Mike22Official]

Yeah I read after posting that the ball becomes dead on tries once B gains possession. I never knew that about high school ball.

But what's the call for NCAA and NFL?

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by Mike22Official

Yeah I read after posting that the ball becomes dead on tries once B gains possession. I never knew that about high school ball.

But what's the call for NCAA and NFL?

In the NFL, B can not score on A's try for PAT.

Bob

[Theisey]

However, Team-A can score a 1-point safety during a TRY down. Do you see how?

[Mike22Official]

Originally Posted by Theisey

However, Team-A can score a 1-point safety during a TRY down. Do you see how?

No, I don't see how, if under Fed rules it says in 8-3-2a that the try becomes dead once Team B has secured possession. I thought this was what's prohibiting B from scoring 2 points like in the NCAA. I also thought this means that 1 point safety would be impossible since the play is dead once B has gained possession. How could a 1-point safety occur?

[ljudge]

Originally Posted by Mike22Official

No, I don't see how, if under Fed rules it says in 8-3-2a that the try becomes dead once Team B has secured possession. I thought this was what's prohibiting B from scoring 2 points like in the NCAA. I also thought this means that 1 point safety would be impossible since the play is dead once B has gained possession. How could a 1-point safety occur?

Fully read the definition of "force" and then see if you can answer Theisey's question.

[Mike22Official]

I read the definition of force and still do not understand.

Force isn't even mentioned in 8-3-2a, just possession.