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Mark Dexter Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:43pm

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
Neither the Fed nor the NCAA is going to copy any of the uniforms. The grey shirts in basketball never really filtered down to Fed and NCAA, who both have rules specifying stripes.

There are a few state and local associations that, rulebook be damned, do allow officials to wear the grey shirts.

oksportofficial Tue Dec 05, 2006 09:29am

Grey Shirts
 
The NCAA did start using the grey shirts for wrestling officials.:cool:

Rich Tue Dec 05, 2006 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Forksref
I think the shirts bring attention to the officials. This is not a good thing. I am a traditionalist. I see white on the shoes at all levels and this looks cheap and unprofessional. (Don't tell me that if the NFL uses something that it is neccesarily good.) I see blue bean bags which are harder to see on a green field. As for the pants, I never had any problem with staying warm with knickers and layers underneath.

I think we are in the era of fads and this is drawing unneeded attention to officials.

My fear is that the FED and NCAA will copy the NFL and we are all in for new costs for uniforms.

The "unneeded attention" philosophy is ridiculous IMO. It always has been. I don't go out of my way to draw attention to myself, but I sure don't try to be invisible, either. No good officials that I know do.

We went to blue bags this year. They don't look dirty after a few weeks. And I wear the most comfy shoes I can find. My current ones have white on them.

The Roamin' Umpire Tue Dec 05, 2006 07:36pm

At least they're not asking them to dress like "referees" for "professional" wrestling. :D

phansen Wed Dec 06, 2006 08:36am

I happened to be at the Buffalo vs San Diego game in Buffalo this past weekend. The officials uniforms really stuck out. Everybody in the stadium was commenting on them. I kept thinking they were warm up gear since it was cold, and before the game started they would change into their real uniform.

My take: The shirts are fine, but that stripe down the side of their pants has to go. Looks unprofessional And the funny thing is that this will filter down, so soon the college ranks and eventually the HS schools will be following suit (no pun intended)

BEAREF Wed Dec 06, 2006 09:38am

Here's my take on the "new look". Anytime there is a change, and I don't care if it's a uniform or a rule change, people are going to voice opinions for and against. If the changes don't have a negative effect on the game they usually stay around. Thirty years from now when a majority of us are too old to officiate and the NFL changes the officials uniforms to white knickers and narrow striped black and white shirts listen to the people comment on how stupid they looks. Over time people do adapt to change and I'm sure that will be the case with the "new look" uniforms.

Rick KY Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:50am

What really bothers me is that there are so many officials who resist change based on the "we've always done it that way" philosophy. Whether it is black pants, new shirts, sun glasses, beards, etc., they simply refuse to adjust with the times, or for what makes perfectly good sense. The funny thing is we have not always worn white knickers, and hats have changed styles and colors over the years also. Even penalty flags changed color. If we talk about rules or mechanics, we are much more open to change.

tjones1 Wed Dec 06, 2006 05:49pm

I heard someone say these pants are being tested this year and next year that's what they will wear every game.... anyone have any truth to this?

HossHumard Wed Dec 06, 2006 06:04pm

I think the new look for the NFL zebras is kinda cool, especially the tops which look quite modern (love the fonts for the #'s). As for the long pants, they look a bit odd at first (and much like the hockey pant experiment of the 70's as someone mentioned previously), but fine after a while. Bottom line is, that if the officials are warmer and more comfortable in the new gear, I think it stands to reason they'll be able to concentrate fully on the task at hand. Perhaps not a whole bunch more, as one would assume at that level those guys can block out just about any negative influence, but even if its another percent or two...why not?

Reminds me of a tradition in our market of working the HS Senior city finals (held in mid November) in short sleeves, regardless of the temperatures, which are usually in the mid teens on the old F scale (we're on the 53rd parallel folks).

Needless to say, the macho look can be almost fatal some years, but when I got to WH one of the two games this year, I told the crew to dress warmly and be as comfortable as possible to allow them to concentrate fully on giving the kids the best game possible. The traditionalists grumbled but my crew called a great game in the wind, snow and -11C (+10F) temps and they thanked me afterwards!

Some traditions just need to die....

radwaste50 Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:14am

During our officials clinic this summer Mike Pereira emphasized several point about the new uniforms. The use of performance fabrics, a copyrighted look and the use of the pants in cold weather. I don’t think the pants will catch on for other than cold weather, but at some point we have to admit that men in knickers is a strange look too.

Bob M. Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:21am

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Originally Posted by radwaste50
...I don’t think the pants will catch on for other than cold weather, but at some point we have to admit that men in knickers is a strange look too.

REPLY: Right now, the "rules" regarding using the black pants make it a crew decision at game time, but only if the temperature is below 38F. Warmer than that, they have to wear their knickers.


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